I disagree.  I can easily reverse engineer your C-code or your binary into
some form of C code.  Lest we forget that Microsoft lost a lawsuit over just
such an act.

If you sell an application to a client, and then they start marketing
something very similar ... REGARDLES of what you've written it in, you
better get a lawyer.

Thor HW
----- Original Message -----
From: Roongnapa Chadtianchai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.


> I agree with you. You are right. To consider the other strengthes  of
Java, I
> still go with it. In the area that the code is sensitive, I applied JNI.
By the
> way, I also personally enjoy hacking the other people's code. Just would
like to
> learn and study to improve my coding skill.
>
> Roongnapa.
>
>
> kevin carothers wrote:
>
> > One thing to consider is that it is ridiculously easy to decompile
> > java class files...  you have to obfuscate them, and then
> > completely re-test. Usually complicated problems don't obfuscate well.
> >
> > Even if you write server apps, the first person
> > you sell your server-app to can decompile it, significantly
> > change it, and  then re-sell it; all from the initial sweat of
> > your mind.   This isn't inherently bad... I've been a
> > believer for many years of "open source."   But folks,  there
> > are SOME THINGS that oughtta remain secret: say,  an ATM safe
> > door open-close algorithm  (think this is easy? try it! :-)
> >
> > Maybe I'm Politically incorrect for this group, but I believe
> > java isn't the best solution for ALL applications.
> >
> > If you're doing a "1-off" internet server app, with
> > back-office B2B infrastructure,  go for it... Java's the best.
> > If you have to download, or "expose" business rules to users,
> > or possible competitors, WATCH OUT!!!!
> >
> > kevin carothers
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Merit M. McMannis
> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 8:09 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: My boss needs convincing.
> >
> > I love java. but it will always be slower. Because it it is compiled
> > into the byte complier. then run in a virtual machine.
> >
> > On 25 Feb 00, at 11:15, Todd L. Poole wrote:
> > > My boss seems to have the "software engineer" background and is
> > continuously critical about web technology that I work with. I develop
web
> > application using ASP and a database alone. I am not using any of my own
> > components.
> > >
> > > Since I am learning java, I am finding it easier to understand and
more
> > logical than Microsoft's programming languages. I would like to expand
into
> > using JSP, Servlets, and Beans, but my boss still thinks Java is slow
and
> > not as efficient as CGI programs written in C. I think he is full of it
> > and I would like to go back to him with proven results from other people
> > using this technology in a situation where load balancing is an issue.
> > >
> > > Until I am writing machine code - I will never please this guy, but I
> > would like to prove him wrong just once with this.
> > >
> > > If you have any input, please share!
> > >
> > > Bored editing HTML pages....
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> >
> >
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