haha..I agree with you, as I said in my previous post. The "obvious"
questions should not be asked..but there is no stopping it unfortanately.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bradley McLain
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BASIC QUESTIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT A LOT OF PEOPLE
>
>
> any question is legitimate if the poster makes clear that he/she
> has looked
> in all the obvious places, has tried a number of approaches, and is still
> stuck. i have no complaint with them. i have been there myself..
>
> yet the percentage of one-liners asking where to find info about java is
> skyrocketing, and just identifying and deleting those has become
> quite time
> consuming. it just seems odd that someone who can figure out how to join
> the list and post an inane question doesn't have the skills to find the
> information they need..
>
> i'll quit grousing now. it will do no good in any event..
>
> bradley mclain
>
> >From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: BASIC QUESTIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT A LOT OF PEOPLE
> >Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:13:39 -0700
> >
> >While I almost agree with the two of you, there is ofcourse
> those that have
> >legitimate questions that may not be so obvious. I have seen a TON of
> >emails
> >from new JSP users that I would agree..are plain stupid to ask. They are
> >easy ones to figure out if you just read or hell..do a web search.
> >
> >But there are many good beginner level questions that quite frankly, I
> >agree
> >are difficult to find and/or are not very well explained.
> Therefore, while
> >the majority of questions are not advanced questions regarding JSP,
> >servlets, and java, its just as easy to "skip" the email. That
> is what I do
> >when I am not interested in one. I get about 90 emails a day
> from this list
> >alone, and I tend to answer as many as I can, even in my very busy
> >schedule,
> >just because many have helped me.
> >
> >I don't agree with the term "lazy" for all of those requests. Some, like
> >"Im
> >new to JSP, where can I find more about it?" Sure..those are lazy. But
> >others that may be as simple as a question from a JSP .92 person
> asking why
> >something isn't working for JSP 1.0 engine, well..its not clearly defined
> >in
> >all implementations and docs, and therefore those people I don't consider
> >lazy..they are just plain stuck.
> >
> >I myself have asked numerous questions that if I had the time I
> would love
> >to look up. Because I have so many things to do on my job, I am not at
> >liberty to spend hours looking them up. Sad to say, but true for many of
> >us,
> >including the gurus of this and other mailing lists. Fact is, I
> have posted
> >some questions here (and still do) that I am sure I could figure out if I
> >looked long enough. Call me lazy if you like, but if somebody knows the
> >answer and it speeds up the process for me, I consider that a more
> >efficient
> >use of my time.
> >
> >There is another issue. While some people can probably learn and retain
> >everything they read the first time around, I would think alot
> more people
> >learn by doing, and by constantly talking about it. I know I
> have picked up
> >on a number of areas of JSP, Java, Servlets, etc by trying to
> answer others
> >questions regarding it. In other words, the more I reply and
> write about a
> >given topic, the more I have learned about it. Sometimes its from replies
> >telling me I am not exactly correct, and other times its because its
> >finally
> >sunk in.
> >
> >So, I say..rifle through the emails..if they are too primitive for you to
> >answer..ignore them. Thats a nice feature..you aren't forced to read, and
> >if
> >you do, you don't even have to reply.
> >
> >Don't get me wrong. There are time where I get aggravated seeing the same
> >emails, or similar topics over and over again. But if it weren't for this
> >list, there are a number of things I wouldn't know today, and I
> appreciate
> >very much the time spent by those that have helped me out, and
> have helped
> >others out that I have read.
> >
> >Anyways..no harsment is intended in my reply. I just had something to say
> >as
> >well. :)
> >
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