Hi Anil:
I, too, believe that active and useful developer forums are key to the
success of these technologies. Traditionally JSP-interest and
Servlet-interest have had participation by a number of key developers at
Sun, including both people in the specification side and the
implementation side; more recently, I think we have not been as present
for a number of reasons, and this has been compounded by the success of
the mailing list (we are by far the largest active mailing list, and
things will just keep getting worse). I agree that we can, should and
must do better, and I'll bring up your concerns and suggestions to the
appropriate internal groups.
In the meantime, some, hopefully useful, pointers:
* ALl mailing lists @ java.sun.com also provide a DIGEST format that can
be used to reduce mail traffic.
* All mailing lists @ java.sun.com provide a Web archive that is sorted
by date, thread, author.
[Archive is at http://archives.java.sun.com/]
* The ASF-related projects keep different mailing lists (-user, -dev,
-general, ...). Relevant ASF projects include tomcat (the code basis for
the RI), taglibs (an incubator project for JSP tag libraries), struts
(an MVC framework using JSP and Servlets).
* Different mailing lists hosted by the different vendors. For example,
I know that Allaire keeps its own mailing list, although I do not
participate there.
Hope this helps,
- eduardo pelegri-llopart
Web Layer Architect for the Java Platform
> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:30:26 -0500
> From: Anil John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Moderated JSP Focused Lists?
>
...
>
> out
> there who are providing high quality assistance to people. There is
> active participation on listserves (100+ asp lists on www.asplists.com),
> including Microsoft people who build the technology.
>
> As a JSP newbie, one of the first things I looked for was a high quality
> listserv that served the JSP community that had active participation
> from
> industry experts. With the plethora of Java based application servers
> from Sun, IBM, Weblogic, Allaire I was expecting active participation on
> multiple lists from Engineers and Technologists from those companies as
> well as from community leaders and experts. Unless I have missed
> something, the ONLY JSP focused list I found was this one.
....
>
> 1. Split the JSP-INTEREST list into multiple lists.
> e.g. JSP-Beginner,JSP-Advanced,JSP-JRun, JSP-Jakarta, JSP-JDBC etc
>
> 2. Encourage active participation from both internal employees as well
> as
> JSP vendors and community experts and authors.
>
> 3. Moderate the list tightly (Iron fist in the velvet glove).
>
> You (Sun) NEED to take an ACTIVE role here!
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