Oops. It was Vinod who had posted the original question and Troy who had exception 
with the responses. My mistake. Anyway, I believe that Mark gave some valuable info in 
his initial response. 

The old proverb is still apropo:
Give a man a fish and he can eat today. Teach him to fish and he can eat for a 
lifetime.

There is nothing wrong with teaching someone to fish for himself!

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By the way, Troy, both Mark and Erik really were attempting to help you resolve your 
problem. Both by showing you how to find the answers yourself and by showing you how 
to ask a question in such a way that shows that you are making an attempt to solve it 
yourself and failing. The people that respond to questions on this list are very 
knowledgeable, but will not volunteer to do your job for you. 

The "obnoxious" statement was your referring to these folks replies as "snide" rather 
than actually following the links provided and reading what was supplied to you.


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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:46 PM
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Interesting that the consensus seems to be that my statement was "obnoxious...". A 
little courtesy goes a long way, which point is apparently wasted here.
 
Did I offend someone? Apologies if so. That said, the people who responded negatively 
were not the subject of my post, until they spoke up and showed their own ignorance.
 
Defeats the purpose of a help mailing list, if newbies are too afraid of being flamed 
to post their question.  But maybe all you big-brains know better than me...
 
Again, good luck to all.

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        Hmmm...
        Kind of like making an obnoxious statement, turning to leave, and walking into 
the closet instead of the front door!
        
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        nice try, lamer
        
        Troy Brown wrote:
        
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