I don't see the limitations of the current TitlePage versus a jsp-page: You can do any kind of formatting in a wiki-page, also complicated text and graphics. For more sophisticated stuff (news-feeds) why not use or write a plugin,. You have the excellent ACL system of jspwiki to hand-over the edit-rights of this page to anyone of your choice, even to non-admins.
When writing a plugin is not an option, and you do want to revert to JSP, then modifying the template seems like a perfect solution for you. The current template and css contain all the hooks you need. An extra JSP seems overflow to me. my 2 cents dirk -1 On Jan 31, 2008 10:30 PM, Murray Altheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dirk Frederickx wrote: > > Murray, > > > > What are the things you can do with the TitleBlock.jsp and can't do > > with a wiki page ? > > Well, there's at least two things: > > 1. You can do anything a JSP can do that a wiki page can't do, which > as you know is quite a lot. This is about a lot more than simply > formatting. Via use of markup and JSP-based code it's certainly > possible to design more complicated text and graphics for a site > header, which is by far the most common design component of a > corporate (e.g., government, commercial, education) web site. Most > corporate entities want to be able to distinctly brand their sites, > and this is by far the best means to guarantee site branding. > > 2. You can set a title block with complex formatting and information > that you DON'T want edited by anyone and is likely designed by an > outside design contractor, since it is part of corporate identity. > For example, for one of my projects I'll be handing over the > complete design of the title block to a design firm. We don't > want either site admins or wiki users to be able to edit the JSP > after the design is complete. So this is also about having control > over the title block. > > > When you need to go and change your jsp's , just to be able to have a > > new newsmessage on your site, is not very practical. > > Once a site is up I *never* need to change the title block JSP. That's > the entire point of having it. If I want a news message to occur in > the title block I can include a news page or code to incorporate a > news feed (ala The Guardian's scrolling text) via JSP, something I > can't do via wiki text. I'd generally want that news information to > be processed and/or formatted especially for a very specific part of > the header, not simply be wiki text that is mixed in with the brand > information. > > > There has never been a TitleBlock.jsp in cvs. I opted to go for a > > wiki-page from the start. Sorry that this was not clear to you. > > In the discussions from last year that did not seem to be the case. I > was under the impression (confirmed by reading the emails again) that > there was agreement that the title block was a good idea, and that it > was only due to my failure that it's not currently in CVS. Is this to > your mind a closed issue? I thought that this was a team effort and > that we all had input. > > Given that when the title block is by default hidden this has literally > no impact in the existing design, could we please add it to the design? > It's the addition of one very simple JSP to the package, one line in > Header.jsp to include it, and a single CSS statement to hide it. The > wiki page approach does not work for any site that requires strong > branding or requires JSP features, i.e., beyond what a wiki page and > CSS alone can provide (which is for all of my clients minimal). > > > Murray > > ........................................................................... > Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = = > http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = === > SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = = > > Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes, > Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light, > The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses, > Knock at any door - there's one who will respond. > -- The Blue Cliff Record > >
