That would not be a bad solution if I needed to search a lot of these files
a lot of the time.
I myself have been known to unpack a jar and mount the directory when I
needed to figure out what is going on.  If it is a matter of figuring out
where a call is going or coming from I can usually find it by searching
newsgroups.
Then if I find a reference to it I'll look for APIDocs.  I did this in the
past to understand irregularities I perceived with Xerces.
I would probably decouple it from eclipse though and do it programmatically
and then just mount the jars in the IDE for searching.

Sorry I came off snippy.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:16 PM
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Ok, well then, what do you think of the Plugin to Eclipse I suggested,
think that's a good idea?  No kidding, what do you think?

Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
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Fax:(520)844-1036


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???

Sorry, just teasing


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???

Well Jon, that's kind of snippy, but before I went ahead and wrote it
myself, I thought I would ask this august group of java guru's....sort
of the reason we are in this JUG is it not?

Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???

Is all this effort easier than writing it yourself?


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???

My thinking is to build an Eclipse Plugin that could walk the filesystem
looking for jars and open them up, index the manifests and contents and
extend the Eclipse search so when you search for "java.security" it
would find not only all the .java source files but all the jars that
have it or use it.

Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???

Also, you could use unzip and grep.  I do this sometimes to check to 
make sure something I intended to be in a .jar/.war/.ear/.zip file is 
really there:

        unzip -v something.jar | grep security

Sprinkle a little Unix magic to loop over all .jar files in the 
filesystem and voila.  :)

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 01:40  PM, Thomas Hicks wrote:
> At 01:24 PM 1/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> You're the Unix guru... :)  I suspect it'd be a one-liner to do 
>> something with 'find' and 'setenv CLASSPATH'.... right?
>>
>> Sorry for not answering the question... oops.
>
> Wow...that sounds like a brute force approach. :)
> This got me thinking though, just how many JARs are
> sitting out there?  The answer for me:
>
> On my 1/3 full 40G drive there are 1410 JAR files!
> Many of these are redundant, of course, as every
> software package seems to distribute the JARs it needs.
> Still, it's a bigger number than I might have imagined.
>         -tom


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