Groovy is clearly going to be important in the future, although the hype seems to have cooled somewhat. I'd love to hear about Ruby--and there is a Java implementation: JRuby which can probably access Java classes as well.

Cheers,
Nick
On Oct 29, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote:

My $.02:

 I'm interested in Groovy and Jython as complements to Java;
 since both allow use of Java class libraries. Jython appears to
 be dead, almost no activity for well over a year. Groovy has some
 interesting concepts (I was able to write a DB query which produced
 XML in about 5 lines of code) but it doesn't strike me as
 ready for prime time. Maybe because of its lack of documentation.

 I would love to hear someone who knows more speak on either of these.

 Also, how about a series of short (15 min) presentations on favorite
 low-cost (or free) tools. I would volunteer for one of these in Dec
 (may be traveling during Nov meeting :(   I can demonstrate the
 Oxygen XML tool or the DB Visualizer tool.

 Also, what about this Prevayler persistance thing? Anyone play
 with that yet?
        -tom


At 07:49 AM 10/28/2004, you wrote:

Hi all,
Was reading a blog this morning and came across some interesting projects which got me thinking about some possible presos if anyone is interested in taking these on:
Ruby preso - any Ruby users out there?
Python preso
Ruby on Rails - http://www.rubyonrails.org/show/HomePage (which Basecamp has been migrated to - http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives/000606.php)
Trails (A Tapestry impl, just starting of Ruby on Rails) - http://jroller.com/page/ccnelson/Weblog?catname=/Trails
Naked Objects - http://www.nakedobjects.org/
Groovy - http://groovy.codehaus.org/


 Would love to hear other suggestions.

 -warner

Nicholas Lesiecki
Software Craftsman, specializing in J2EE,
Agile Methods, and aspect-oriented programming

Books:
* Mastering AspectJ: http://tinyurl.com/66vf
* Java Tools for Extreme Programming: http://tinyurl.com/66vt

Articles on AspectJ:
* http://tinyurl.com/66vu and http://tinyurl.com/66vv


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