Ahh, looking back on it I did read it as a more general problem (their I go
again reading way to much into things)  

Yes, I will agree your suggestion is very good one  


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Erik Hatcher wrote:

> 
> On Dec 30, 2004, at 11:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Ooooo...  Ok, that seems like fun (I know I am sick, but truth is I 
> > have time
> > to kill at home for next week and a half) But we should also have 
> > different
> > kinds of common data, like a few hundred complete personal records, a 
> > few
> > books/blogs, etc.  We could also see a difference between memory 
> > resident ODB
> > structure and RDB structure.  For implementation time we should also 
> > try one
> > technology we are familiar with and one we are not; as implementation 
> > time is
> > inversely proportional to prior knowledge of the method used to
> > implement.  Perhaps I can get more practice at Lucene.
> 
> You're getting pretty carried away here!  I am after simplicity - 
> meeting what Tim's original question was about, nothing more.  From 
> what you just said, and what you say later, it sounds like you're 
> expanding the requirements dramatically.  I'm in if Tim wants to write 
> a few unit tests that candidate implementations should turn green.
> 
> > Also, am I the only one who has to deal with the Trak Everything 
> > Objects?  I
> > ask because a few hundred tuples in a record is not uncommon.  It is 
> > also not
> > uncommon to have them related to a few dozen other entities each of 
> > which may
> > have 25-50 tuples.  And the users come up with wacky searches like "I 
> > want to
> > know every person who has ever been on a south phoenix construction 
> > project
> > with Tim after he became a lead.  " I know there are some scary smart 
> > people
> > on this list (I am not necessarily on of them) and I would love to see 
> > some
> > good code.
> 
> This vastly changes the landscape.  This sounds like the job for an RDF 
> engine (Kowari is the one I hear the most about).
> 
> I'm not interested in building a mega catch-all kinda in-memory object 
> store.  Tim had one concrete example, and I said Lucene looked perfect 
> for it.  Lucene is awesome, but its not the end solution for every 
> conceivable scenario.  If Tim's use cases are along the lines of the 
> example he provided then I'm up for making whatever unit tests he comes 
> up with pass with a Lucene implementation under the covers.
> 
>       Erik
> 
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