Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by some, let's get serious. Call it "govern themselves" or "sensorship" or "standards" or "regulations", etc. but the problem with that is who decides? If a discussion thread starts off on AJAX relative to Java and someone interjects some .NET code examples, is that "off topic" enough? Who decides? If someone is talking Apple Battery recalls and speaks of their Dell or an Airport travel problem, is that off topic or not Java enough to warrant expulsion? Who decides? If someone is just cranky and finds too much idle chatter clogging up their inbox and uses an obviously offensive sentence to illustrate a point, is that enough to sensor it? Who decides? If someone calls someone else a "jackass" but managed to veil it somewhat, is that enough? Who decides?
Every list I am on has had some obnoxious person try to hijack the list for their own agenda and most times they get flamed enough to get pissed off and leave without having to bar them, which doesn't work BTW because a new email address is 30 seconds away. I think Warner is right on target, and I don't know of any degrading user that has needed to be banned or even heavily chastized, so if someone, including me gets too off topic to the point of degrading the list, somebody please just say so. Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096 Las Vegas, NV 89156 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -----Original Message----- From: josh zeidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:37 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo I guess its some kind of coincidence that I am noticing a high degree of informal commentary on UG lists lately. You do realize that this kind of thing reflects badly on customer and employer appeal? For instance, I could say some kind of offhand comment like "they'll give a greencard to just about any slob who scraped up enough money to bribe the DOL!". Obviously, some may be deeply offended by such a statement. Although it is certainly the prerogative of a group to govern themselves the way they see fit, in the case of a JUG, there is the issue of the exploitation of the legitimacy that the JUG term provides. I'm wondering if there are any regulations that deal with this issue in the JCP or whether the JUG term is an entirely public-domain all-purpose term that can be utilized by any party. I would assume that if there are no such regulations then either 1) JUGs will likely degrade in relevance( a process already in effect ), 2) such regulations will be imposed in the future. The problems of such exploitation extend to all members of a local area. Thanks, Josh Zeidner --- Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To Tim and Jon: > > I nearly fell out of my freaking chair at "White and > Nerdy". > > To the rest of you: > If you haven't seen it, it's a must see. > > Back to Tim: > > Even Google hasn't solved the problem of how to > migrate all of your > friends and relatives from your old address. > Besides, this way I can > spy on their new UI! > > FWIW: I couldn't survive without GMail for my work > account. Only > Gmail can handle the volume of internal mail I get. > > Back to the group: > > Oh, and anyone who's in the area for Hackday's > welcome to come and > visit the 'plex. Dunno what Yahoo has planned for > HackDay, but I > guarantee our cafe food is better on the average > Tuesday than it is > at Yahoo's special event. > > That's right. I went there. > > Nick > > > On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson)) > wrote: > > > Lol... am I the only one laughing that Nick sent > this from his > > yahoo.com > > email? > > > > Hojillion -- "number of hos you can fit in your > car" ... hmm, in my > > two-seater that'd only be one and she'd have to > sit on the wife's > > lap...which would most likely end badly. <grin> > > > > It's too bad GOOG doesn't seem to have a remote > worker option... or > > > > FYI... I'll be at the Yahoo Open Hack Day > (hackday.org) in the Bay > > Area > > next weekend. Anybody else going to be there? > > > > Nick? Or are you too "white and nerdy"? > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7939447080926152362&q=white > > > +and+ > > nerdy > > > > -Timo > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Nick Lesiecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:23 AM > >> To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org > >> Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Fwd: > Potentially > >> interesting Seattle Times story > >> > >> I think this is an appropriate time to mention > that Google > >> has an office in Phoenix, and if you want to be > part of a > >> team that wins a > >> hojillion* dollar award, you should send me your > resume. I've > >> already helped one of the Tucson JUG'ers find > employ at > >> Google, and I hope to shepherd a few more into > our "Island of > >> Snacks" in Tempe. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> * Hojillion: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hojillion > >> > >> P.S. This is my one chance for famous name > dropping: I was in a > >> meeting w/ Guido Van Rossum yesterday. WOot! > >> > >> P.P.S. Despite the tone of this email, I am > serious. Send me your > >> resume. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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