I'm not sure I understand the distinction, Curtis.  Backing up the state
data in an HA environment is what I was talking about for large
environments.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Curtis Hovey-Canonical <cur...@canonical.com
> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Nate Finch <nate.fi...@canonical.com>
> wrote:
> ...
> > Then the only case that is really a problem is large environments which
> are
> > not using HA, which should be something we discourage, and uninterrupted
> > backup can be a way to  show the benefits of HA.
>
> There is one other scenario. A backup and restore of a HA env. We
> support this as a final fallback for cases where disaster strikes all
> state-servers. We test that his can always be done. CI does see the
> downtime. I think this is acceptable since a human chooses to bring
> down state-server and none of the other services running in the
> environment are affected.
>
> In the future, when charms can report the health of services,
> consumers of health data may have some sense of downtime.
>
>
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