This would also help emphasize our single install option for the OpenStack installer to be meant for "trying" out Juju and OpenStack.
http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Nate Finch <nate.fi...@canonical.com> wrote: > It seems like a lot of people get confused by Juju, because it is different > than the tools they know. They want to deploy stuff with Juju, and so they > get a machine from AWS/Digital Ocean/whatever, ssh into the machine, install > juju, and run the local provider.... and then wonder why they can't access > their services from outside the machine. > > I think this stems from two things - one is the people are used to > chef/puppet/etc where you ssh into the machine and then run the install > there (note: I know nothing about these tools, so may be mis-characterizing > them). Whereas with Juju, you are perfectly able to orchestrate an install > on a remote machine in the cloud from your laptop. > > The other is the local provider. The intent of the local provider is to > give users a way to easily try out Juju without needing to spin up real > machines in the cloud. It's also very useful for testing out charms during > charm development and/or testing service deployments. It's not very useful > for real production environments... but yet some people still try to > shoehorn it into that job. > > I think one easy thing we could do to better indicate the purpose of the > local provider is to simply rename it. If we named it the "demo" provider, > it would be much more clear to users that it is not expected to be used for > deploying a production environment. This could be as easy as aliasing > "local" to "demo" and making the default environments.yaml print out with > the local provider renamed to "demo". (feel free to s/demo/testing/ or any > other "not ready for production" word) > > What do you think? > > -Nate > > -- > Juju-dev mailing list > Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev > -- [ Adam Stokes ] -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev
