Tim,

How well does it work if, instead of pi, the thing being printed is some 
abstract type so its concrete type is only known at runtime?

Cheers
Lex

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 11:34:27 AM UTC+10, Tim Holy wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 05:21:10 PM Luke Stagner wrote: 
> > Would it be possible to rewrite @printf as a generated function instead 
> of 
> > a macro. That way the calling syntax would be more familiar. 
>
> That's a good suggestion. 
>
> At the risk of encouraging emacs users to "fix" the syntax with ctrl-T, 
> I'd 
> propose the following (apparently complete?) solution: 
>
>
> immutable FormatString{S} end 
>
> FormatString(str::AbstractString) = FormatString{symbol(str)} 
>
> macro f_str(arg) 
>     :(FormatString{symbol($arg)}) 
> end 
>
> @generated function Base.print{format}(::Type{FormatString{format}}, 
> args...) 
>     meta = Expr(:meta, :inline) 
>     fmt = string(format) 
>     allargs = [:(args[$d]) for d = 1:length(args)] 
>     quote 
>         @printf($fmt, $(allargs...)) 
>     end 
> end 
>
>
>
> Demo: 
> julia> print(f"%.3f", pi) 
> 3.142 
> julia> function foo(strs) 
>            for str in strs 
>                print(FormatString(str), pi) 
>            end 
>        end 
> foo (generic function with 1 method) 
>
> julia> strs = ("%.3f\n", "%.5f\n") 
> ("%.3f\n","%.5f\n") 
>
> julia> foo(strs) 
> 3.142 
> 3.14159 
>
> julia> @time 1   # just to warm up @time 
>   0.000004 seconds (148 allocations: 10.151 KB) 
> 1 
>
> julia> @time foo(strs) 
> 3.142 
> 3.14159 
>   0.000106 seconds (18 allocations: 704 bytes) 
>
>
> Nice that we get to re-use the macro that Stefan worked so hard on! 
>
> Best, 
> --Tim 
>
> > 
> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:07:23 PM UTC-7, Stefan Karpinski 
> wrote: 
> > > Possible, but I don't relish the thought of forever explaining to 
> people 
> > > that they need to use printf with or without the @ depending on if 
> they 
> > > want it to be fast or flexible. If you really don't care about speed, 
> you 
> > > can just do this right now: 
> > > 
> > > printf(fmt::AbstractString, args...) = @eval 
> @printf($(bytestring(fmt)), 
> > > $(args...)) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But actually don't do that because it's so horrifically slow and 
> > > inefficient I just can't. 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Daniel Carrera <dcar...@gmail.com 
> > > 
> > > <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > >> On 22 September 2015 at 20:40, Stefan Karpinski <ste...@karpinski.org 
> > >> 
> > >> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > >>> I think that before any further discussion takes place of how easy 
> or 
> > >>> hard implementing a high-performance printf is, anyone who'd like to 
> > >>> comment should spend some time perusing GNU libc's vfprintf 
> > >>> implementation 
> > >>> <
> http://repo.or.cz/w/glibc.git/blob/ec999b8e5ede67f42759657beb8c5fef87c8 
> > >>> cc63:/stdio-common/vfprintf.c>. This code is neither easy nor 
> trivial – 
> > >>> it's batsh*t crazy. 
> > >> 
> > >> That is insane... 2388 lines, half of it macros, and I have no idea 
> how 
> > >> it works. 
> > >> 
> > >>> And we want to match its performance yet be much more flexible and 
> > >>> generic. The current printf implementation does just that, while 
> being 
> > >>> somewhat less insane GNU's printf code. If someone has bright ideas 
> for 
> > >>> how 
> > >>> to *also* allow runtime format specification without sacrificing 
> > >>> performance or generality, I'm all ears. 
> > >> 
> > >> This might be a stupid question, but what's the harm in sacrificing 
> > >> performance as long as we keep the current @sprintf for scenarios 
> that 
> > >> call 
> > >> for performance? I don't always need printf() to be fast. 
> > >> 
> > >>> I have some thoughts, but they're just that – thoughts. One option 
> is to 
> > >>> change the design and avoid printf-style formatting altogether. But 
> then 
> > >>> I'm sure I'll never hear the end of it with people kvetching about 
> how 
> > >>> we 
> > >>> don't have printf. 
> > >> 
> > >> Probably. Everyone is used to printf and they are comfortable with 
> it. 
> > >> 
> > >> Daniel. 
>
>

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