Hi,

Let's come back to it next week.

-Jukka-

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Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de] 
Lähetetty: 28. kesäkuuta 2011 13:12
Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] WMS URL for getMap-Request differs from URL for WMService

i've got some time at my hands, let me have a look at the complexity and come 
back with an estimate. maybe now is the time ;)

regards

On 28.06.2011 11:33, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> OpenJUMP does not really support using vendor parameters.  The same is true 
> with STYLES=, SLD_BODY= and SLD= as well.
> It is possible to tweak OpenJUMP by giving the server url including the 
> vendor parameters or extra parameters and telling OpenJUMP to use that URL as 
> a base URL for GetMaps too.  This will not work if WMS server is really using 
> another base URL for GetMaps but, as we have discussed, that is not very 
> common.  Extra parameters will be used with GetCapabilities as well, but it 
> does not matter because if WMS server does not understand what they mean it 
> is just skipping them.  This is the behaviour that is also written in the WMS 
> standard.
> 
> I have never tried if those extra parameters are stored into project file but 
> I fear they are not. It would be a nice and rather simple development to 
> OpenJUMP. At least I would guess so, I am not a programmer myself.  I would 
> guess it would basically mean adding a new text box into WMS dialogue and 
> concatenating the contents of the text box into all the GetMaps, URL-encoded 
> from the relevant parts. Setting should be separate for each layer, and it 
> should be possible to save the settings into project file and edit easily.
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
> 
> 
>  
> ________________________________________
> Lähettäjä: Wilfried Hornburg [wilfried.hornb...@gmx.de]
> Lähetetty: 28. kesäkuuta 2011 12:13
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] WMS URL for getMap-Request differs from   URL     for   
>   WMService
> 
> Hi Jukka,
> the use of the dialog is OK. Could you please explain how to get your URLs 
> with vendor specicfic parameters work in OpenJUMP and how it is stored in the 
> Project-File?
> It seems to be a little bit tricky. Thanks.
> 
> Wilfried
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:11:33 +0000
>> Von: Rahkonen Jukka <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>> An: \'OpenJump develop and use\' <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Betreff: Re: [JPP-Devel] WMS URL for getMap-Request differs from URL  for    
>>  WMService
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I forgot the URL for testing the vendor parameters (which are OK according
>> to the WMS standard).  This one can be tested with a web browser
>>
>> http://188.64.1.61/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/usr/map/osm-mapserver_i.map&REQUEST=GetMap&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&WIDTH=1059&HEIGHT=687&LAYERS=sea,borders,POI_free_query&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&BBOX=-574187,6558020,1615375,7978444&SRS=EPSG:3067&STYLES=&tag=shop&value=supermarket
>>
>> When using &value=convenience the map will look different. As long as
>> OpenJUMP is missing the setting for vendor parameters the only way to use 
>> them
>> is to tweak with the base URL. Automatic GetMap URL taken from
>> GetCapabilities would break this useful possibility.
>>
>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>
>>
>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>> Lähettäjä: Wilfried Hornburg [mailto:wilfried.hornb...@gmx.de]
>> Lähetetty: 28. kesäkuuta 2011 0:37
>> Vastaanottaja: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] WMS URL for getMap-Request differs from URL for
>> WMService
>>
>> Hi,
>> the Info Jukka explained in his
>> Posthttps://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27709358 to
>> different URLs for an WMS is generally OK.
>> The only suggestion  i'd like to discuss is, whether the user has really
>> the choice to accept (or cancel) the differing URLs (getCap and getMap)
>> The differing URLs are indeed a special case. But: If the Web Mapping
>> Server answers with the getCapabilities Response and declares an
>> different getMapURL, then this URL is mandatory to get an
>> getMap-Response with an Mapimage in it. If you'll send the
>> getMap-Request with the URL for the Service, then an WMS will respond
>> with an empty Mapimage (no Error). The Problem is that you don't know
>> for this request whether there is an Information or not.
>> As far as i can see, it is not necessary to ask the user.  The answer
>> from the question is never stored in the project file. So if you've
>> stored a project,  you'll get no question anymore.
>> I am interested  in your opinion.
>>
>> Wilfried
>>
>>
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