Yes, when reading GeoJSON it is OK to create a column as the first met not-null 
datatype and populate the column with a mixture of proper values and null 
values.

JSON allows also that "att_1" is string for one feature but integer for 
another.  I do not know if we should care about this. If such data comes it is 
obviously not created with traditional GIS. However, casting such fields to 
strings should work and make a usable result. Feels ineffective and requires 
multiple scans of GeoJSON data if I understand right.

I am using this site for checking the validity of GeoJSON 
http://geojsonlint.com/
With that tool I just found that OpenJUMP writes date fields wrong, like
"datex":2012-04-23T18:25:43.511Z
For making it valid, use string as in "datex":"2012-04-23T18:25:43.511Z"

More about dates in JSON
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10286204/the-right-json-date-format

-Jukka-


-----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de] 
Lähetetty: 4. marraskuuta 2016 14:42
Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers

thx Mike

that goes for writing JSON, but what about reading. is it ok to create 
attribute columns that contain NULL values _and_ proper numbers, strings, 
boolean values etc.?

..ede

On 04.11.2016 13:35, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Hi Ede,
> 
> As stated in this discussion, I think that defining a null value or 
> omitting the attribute is (or should be) equivalent (and the second is 
> lighter !).
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11003424/should-json-include-null-v
> alues
> 
> In JML, I introduced nill attributes because some null values were 
> transformed into empty string, which modified the original data.
> May be it would have been  possible to omit the element (or the
> attribute) as suggested in the discussion about json.
> 
> Michaël
> 
> 
> Le 04/11/2016 à 12:14, edgar.sol...@web.de a écrit :
>> Mike,
>>
>> any opinion on the below? ..ede
>>
>> On 03.11.2016 16:20, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>> just for completeness. does the same count for writing GeoJSON? obviously 
>>> GDAL does it, but could you test w/ some other reader to doublecheck null 
>>> mixed columns?
>>>
>>> ..ede
>>>
>>> On 03.11.2016 16:16, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>> I tested JML with Boolean and date, parses nulls OK, I believe no 
>>>> exceptions are needed. Having null is normal. Some day databases with 
>>>> layer definitions NOT NULL can make trouble but we can forget it now.
>>>>
>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> edgar.soldin wrore
>>>>
>>>> and it parses Double values too. so any exceptions needed or none 
>>>> at all? ..ede
>>>>
>>>> On 03.11.2016 16:06, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>>>> only for these two types or for Boolean as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03.11.2016 15:53, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JML reader accepts nulls in strings and longs (try with the attached 
>>>>>> file), I would say that GeoJSON driver should do the same.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike, Jukka,
>>>>>>> so what do you guys say. should the GeoJSON reader
>>>>>>    accept Long/null mixed columns as Long and do the same for the other 
>>>>>> attribute types or
>>>>>>    enforce these columns to be of type String as it is implemented now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 13:20, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>> OpenJUMP can even set any attribute into NULL but only I and 
>>>>>>>> Michaël
>>>>>>> know how until now *)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It looks like numeric attributes without any value are null while 
>>>>>>>> strings and dates can have a value, be empty, or be NULL.  Michaël can 
>>>>>>>> explain better but at least in shapefiles or actually in dbf string 
>>>>>>>> born as NULL but it is saved into a file as an empty string which is 
>>>>>>>> actually not empty but filled with asterisks. So if you open an 
>>>>>>>> existing shapefile you do not see NULLs because they are empty strings 
>>>>>>>> at that stage.
>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *) with some attribute types (date, string) you must double 
>>>>>>> click and hold  the left button pressed and little NULL appears 
>>>>>>> beside the
>>>>>>> cursor)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de]
>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 3. marraskuuta 2016 13:56
>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use 
>>>>>>> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jukka, please try the latest snapshot from a minute ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> generally the reader assumes that NULL is a specific type. it looks 
>>>>>>> like OJ tolerates numerical columns with NULL values. is that standard, 
>>>>>>> should i modify the reader accordingly? is it a general rule for all 
>>>>>>> attribute types?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:34, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
>>>>>>>> i see the issue. there is one "keskikorkeus" being NULL forcing the 
>>>>>>>> whole attribute column to become String.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of course this is a bug in the GeoJSON reader and i'll fix it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> By taking the big dataset that I had originally in JML format and 
>>>>>>>>> converting a subset of it with ogr2ogr into GeoJSON.  Test data 
>>>>>>>>> contains 100 first features selected with SQL "limit 100 offset 0".  
>>>>>>>>> I believe that the error comes from the latter half because I can 
>>>>>>>>> edit the schema of json file that I captured with "limit 50 offset 
>>>>>>>>> 0".  I would look for gml_id=jarvi.106 which has NULL where other 
>>>>>>>>> features have data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de]
>>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 3. marraskuuta 2016 13:16
>>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use 
>>>>>>>>> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> how did you create it? manually by editing the geoJson file 
>>>>>>>>> with a text editor? ..ede
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:09, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I managed to create test data with only 100 features 
>>>>>>>>>> http://latuviitta.org/downloads/100.json
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For testing just open and try to edit and save the schema.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ede,
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I have problems with creating a small GeoJSON that leads to 
>>>>>>>>>>> this issue. I got the problematic layer by opening a big GeoJSON 
>>>>>>>>>>> file but if I copy a few features from that layer to a new layer 
>>>>>>>>>>> with Replicate features, then the problem disappears. I have also 
>>>>>>>>>>> tried to make a short GeoJSON file with just one feature with GDAL 
>>>>>>>>>>> but that does not show any problem.  The big GeoJSON is 2.6 GB.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>> will continue trials with creating a small and failing data.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de]
>>>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 2. marraskuuta 2016 18:17
>>>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use 
>>>>>>>>>> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jukka,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> can you send me a small GeoJSON example file to replicate your issue?
>>>>>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 02.11.2016 17:12, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I opened some data from GeoJSON and I can't edit the schema.
>>>>>>>>>>> Apply changes yields just an error message. However, if I 
>>>>>>>>>>> save the data into JML or GeoJSON and open it from the disk, then I 
>>>>>>>>>>> can edit the schema.
>>>>>>>>>>> So unfortunately I can't provide with test data. Here is the 
>>>>>>>>>>> error, though
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.Long cannot be cast 
>>>>>>>>>>> to java.lang.String
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn
>>>>>>>>>>> .con
>>>>>>>>>>> ve
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> t(
>>>>>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>>>>>> iewSchemaPlugIn.java:346)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn
>>>>>>>>>>> .con
>>>>>>>>>>> ve
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> t(
>>>>>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>>>>>> iewSchemaPlugIn.java:287)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn
>>>>>>>>>>> .app
>>>>>>>>>>> ly
>>>>>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>>>>> ha
>>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>>> ges(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:165)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn
>>>>>>>>>>> .acc
>>>>>>>>>>> es
>>>>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>>>>> $3
>>>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>>> 0(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:77)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn
>>>>>>>>>>> $Edi
>>>>>>>>>>> tS
>>>>>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>>>>>> aFrame$3.actionPerformed(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:746)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel.fireActionP
>>>>>>>>>>> erfo
>>>>>>>>>>> rm
>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>> d(
>>>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>>> chemaPanel.java:687)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel.applyButton
>>>>>>>>>>> _act
>>>>>>>>>>> io
>>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>>> Pe
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> formed(SchemaPanel.java:677)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel$14.actionPe
>>>>>>>>>>> rfor
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>>>>> (S
>>>>>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>>>>>> hemaPanel.java:448)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unk
>>>>>>>>>>> nown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doInte
>>>>>>>>>>> rsec
>>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doInte
>>>>>>>>>>> rsec
>>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doInte
>>>>>>>>>>> rsec
>>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                               at 
>>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is what I get with Copy schema from the failing layer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> GEOMETRY      GEOMETRY
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gml_id               STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mtk_id               LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gidm                   STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> dimension        LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sijaintitarkkuus                           LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> aineistolahde  LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> alkupvm            STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> kohderyhma   LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> kohdeluokka   LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> keskikorkeus  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> saannostelynalaraja                  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> saannostelynylaraja                  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> vedenpinnankorkeusluvutviittaus                   STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> versio                 LONG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> R_G_B               STRING
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If I use Paste style to a new layer only "gml_id" gets created.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jukka Rahkonen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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