Hi Larry, Michael and Stefan, I am very glad to open this discussion. To explain better my idea, the "paste to the coordinates" tool was in support of point symbology. But it couold be used aklso in other mapping activities on OJ. For instance, moving items from one area to another without using Warp tool.
Of coarse the alternative is a "clone items" which probabily is more easy (I think) to do (a sort of copy/paste original/move tool). But a really "paste to coordinate" willhave a large usage (like opening two projects and copy object between them). Regarding Michael's point that symbology should be managed by styles, I agree with him, nevertheless, unfortunatelly, dispite Geof's efforts and OJ tips, we still miss of this capability. Paul pointed some months ago that this require a core style tool changing, which probabily will take time (OpenjUMP 2.01 Beta?). Paste to coordinate should be on the Layer view menu. Probabily a better re-organization of this fundamental menu will make less confusion. Regards Peppe --- Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > In the process of checking this our, I discovered a > forgotten feature of the > Rotate tool. Holding the shift key down while it is > active turns the cursor > into a cross hair that allows you to click and > specify the rotation point. > I guess this is why we need documentation. I have > added this tip to the > wiki. > > Larry > > On Nov 7, 2007 5:40 PM, Larry Becker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >yep .. could be done, although i am using it > quite often :) > > > > Yea, me too. Sigh. SkyJUMP has a solution for > this problem too. It has > > a section on the menu that caches the last three > executed commands so that > > everything is always handy the second time you do > it. > > > > Hi Michaël, haven't heard from you for a while. > The use case I'm really > > solving happens quite a bit in the > facilities-management-like environment > > that we work in. Say that you are planning to > build some new facilities and > > you import a nice looking floor plan from CAD > (thanks to your DXF plugin). > > Of course, since it is a CAD drawing, it is > nowhere in the real world so you > > have to move it. It would be great to cut it, > zoom to the proper location, > > paste it to the point that you right-click on. > Then since you don't control > > exactly what point it pasts at, you get the move > tool automatically to > > adjust it (and perhaps rotate too). Then you > click at another point and > > paste for the second facility and so on... > > > > regards, > > > > Larry > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2007 5:01 PM, Stefan Steiniger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Becker schrieb: > > > > I worry about overloading the context menus > too. Actually, the view > > > context > > > > menu is not too bad (just 21 entries). The > layer name context menu is > > > where > > > > it gets crowded (33 items, counting > separators). > > > > > > > > I guess Peppe's original point was to keep > paste together with copy. > > > Also > > > > the new idea is to "Paste items at Click > Point" which, like the Rotate > > > menu > > > > item, needs to be a right click entry. > > > > > > mhm.. rotation yes.. but i am not sure about > "paste on point".. > > > > > > > > Regarding the clutter on the layer name menu, > the recently added > > > Extract > > > > options could be moved to the Layer main menu. > We could also reduce > > > some of > > > > the duplication like "Select Current Layer > Items" which is a duplicate > > > of > > > > Edit->Select Layer Items. > > > > > > yep .. could be done, although i am using it > quite often :) > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought, > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > On Nov 7, 2007 4:02 PM, Stefan Steiniger < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> sounds pretty easy? > > > >> well.. you are the expert :) > > > >> > > > >> but we may consider it not to move to the > mouse menu but to a > > > "normal" > > > >> menu.. because I already become the feeling > it becomes to heavy.. the > > > >> menu (just a thought) > > > >> would be cool to have submenus for the mouse > (or maybe not ;) > > > >> > > > >> stefan > > > >> > > > >> Larry Becker schrieb: > > > >>> I talked it over with my internal users and > they added a few things > > > to > > > >> the > > > >>> wish list. They really want to be able to > select some existing > > > >> features, > > > >>> paste them into a layer, have the newly > pasted features become the > > > new > > > >>> selection, and automatically invoke the move > tool so that they can > > > do > > > >> fine > > > >>> adjustments. Rotation is also sometimes > necessary, so a move tool > > > that > > > >>> becomes a rotate tool when the shift key is > held down would be a > > > plus. > > > >> All > > > >>> of this still sounds pretty easy. > > > >>> > > > >>> Larry > > > >>> > > > >>> On Nov 7, 2007 3:29 PM, Stefan Steiniger < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> yes.. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> seems like something what will improve > usability for people making > > > maps > > > >> :) > > > >>>> stefan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Larry Becker schrieb: > > > >>>>> Hi Peppe, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I know SkyJUMP's users would like to > have a "Paste at Cursor" > > > >>>> function. > > > >>>>> Seems like a simple thing to implement, > but very useful. I'll add > > > it > > > >> to > > > >>>> my > > > >>>>> TODO list. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> You occasionally have some pretty good > ideas! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> regards, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Larry > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Nov 7, 2007 2:03 PM, Giuseppe Aruta < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hi all, > > > >>>>>> I found very useful the copy/move/past > tools to > > > >>>>>> populate a map with complex objects which > I have to > > > >>>>>> use as point symbols. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I wander if it is possible to have a tool > (on layer > > > >>>>>> view menu) like "Paste (selected items) > to these > > > >>>>>> coordinates" (the coordinates of the > mouse arrow) > > > >>>>>> which probabily makes everything easier > > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Peppe > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> ___________________________________ > > > >>>>>> L'email della prossima generazione? 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