Sounds like a reasonable plan to me. From the perspective of JUMP the GID values are a "user-defined key", so this fits the paradigm that I mentioned earlier.

GIDs sound a bit suspect to me from an overall application viewpoint. Don't you need to define a key for any geometry that you create in order to reference it elsewhere in your application? Personally I prefer to generate/manage my own keys, at least for long-lived data.

Kurt Heston wrote:
Some background...

I've build a MapServer/PostGIS Java app and am using OpenJump for editing. My Java code changes attribues, but OpenJump handles any geos changes.

I was hoping to use the PostGIS OJ plugin directly, but I'm unable to get any writes to the DB to happen without errors. So, I'm relegated to editing SHP files in OpenJump and have to develop some strategy to manage population of changes into the PostGIS repository.

I think I'll use the GID values that go along with any new PostGIS row and copy them to an attribute in the SHP files. I'll then need to build some simple add/update/delete logic into transfers between OpenJump and PostGIS (and make it multi-user).

Ideas appreciated and thanks for confirming my findings.

Stefan Steiniger wrote:
Martin is right, also ArcGIS creates own "dynamic" FIDs

Martin Davis wrote:
That's correct. FIDs are intended for internal JUMP use only. If you need unique IDs, you need to define your own strategy for creating and maintaining them. (This situation is not unique to JUMP - in my experience you should pretty much never rely on an arbitrary piece of software to define unique IDs for you - you just don't have enough control and guarantee over their behaviour).

Kurt Heston wrote:
Nevermind.
I should have read the code in OJ before I tried this. It appears FIDs are newly assigned each time a shapefile is opened, pretty useless when trying to tie systems together with a unique ID.

Kurt Heston wrote:
In looking at the instructions at: http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Working+with+GML

This line in the example GML template seems to infer the FID will be output:

<property name="FID"><%=COLUMN fid%></property>

But I get "Unrecognized attribute name: FID" when I try it. Anybody gotten this to work?


Kurt Heston wrote:
I'm using shp2pgsql to convert my OpenJump data to PostGis. It ignores the FID column. Is there a good way I can convert my SHP files to PostGis and retain the FIDs?
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