On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Pavel Lunin wrote:

2013/4/25 Brandon Ross <br...@pobox.com>

But in my experience real OOB mgt is a too rare case in real life of the
ISP world.

We have very different experiences then.  I'm not claiming it's a
majority, but I will claim that many of the largest networks in the world
do, indeed, have true OOB management networks.

Just let me clarify that with "real OOB mgt network" I mean dedicated
media, switches and all or, more formally, independence of control traffic
from forwarding plane of what it controls.

We are using the same definition informally I think. Formally, I don't know of any networks where the actual network control traffic (routing protocols) are on a completely independent, out of band network, nor would I recommend such a design for any use cases I can think of.

If you change "control traffic" to "management traffic" in your statement, then I think we'd be in complete agreement.

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