Hello Scott. That your letter indicates that pseudo emulation of Macintosh for Kaboodle is not adequate. Please ask the author of "Macintosh" specific source code to check my source code changing and debug it.
My pseudo emulation of Macintosh for Kaboodle was very simple. Kaboodle identifies type of device by means of member NID_DEVICE_ATTRIBS::m_nType. That member can be EF_NID_PC, EF_NID_MAC, etc. I has changed the type of singular fixed device from EF_NID_PC to EF_NID_MAC when Kaboodle receives NID data. You can find that code - it has the macros _MAC_EMULATION in the file UI\NetworkLocalView.cpp. -Igor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lyapin Oleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bog Report, 4 July > Igor: > I checked your code changes today, and my Macintosh > has not gotten a VNC halo. Sorry. > > How did you emulate the device? You should be able to do > it by giving one of your PC's a MAC address which is within the MAC > address range that's assigned to Apple. Their range is specified > here: "http://standards.ieee.org/cgi-bin/ouisearch";. > > Should I ask VK to debug this? > > -Scott > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > Hello Scott. > > I made some changes into "Macintosh" specific source code. > > As I wrote earlier, I don't have really Macintosh, > > so I has executed certain programmer pseudo emulation > > of Macintosh for Kaboodle. > > Now I see VNC halo on my "Macintosh" emulation device. > > But that programmer pseudo emulation is not quite safely. > > Therefore I ask you about following: > > - please check results of my changing > > (please clear Kaboodle registry key before that check), > > - please ask the author of "Macintosh" specific source code > > to check my source code changing. > > Please see my inline comments. > > - Igor > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bog Report, 4 July > > > > > > > Igor: > > > Let me try to explain (I'm CC'ing Oleg too, who > > > sometimes has better luck understanding my english). > > > > > > My Macintosh is running VNC. The Macintosh IP address > > > is 192.168.123.128. I'm running Kaboodle on a WinNT machine. It > > > has IP address 192.168.123.130. There is nothing else on this > > > LAN. When I start Kaboodle, it correctly puts a Macintosh icon > > > into the "My Macs" icon group. But the icon does not have a VNC > > > halo. When I open the Property Panel for the Macintosh, and go > > > to the VNC Property Tab, Kaboodle auto-detects the VNC server > > > correctly. I can enter a password and hit Connect and VNC starts > > > like it should. But if I open the VNC Service Property Panel, > > > the Macintosh is not listed in the list of servers. And although > > > the VNC server has been detected, there is no halo on the > > > Macintosh icon. If I change the icon to a Windows PC icon, the > > > halo still does not appear. > > ******************************************************************** > > It was before changing: > > > > Please see the function > > void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex) > > in the file UI\NetworkLocalView.cpp. > > In that function exists block > > case EF_NID_PC: ... > > That block checks both binary flags > > 1) - bool bIsIndependentVncListner, > > which indicate that independent Vnc Server is running on PC. > > 2) - bool bKaboodleRunning, > > which indicate that Kaboodle is running on PC, > > Then that block creates a PC icon - > > AddPC( ..., ..., bKaboodleRunning, bIsIndependentVncListner, ...); > > The PC icon knows data #1, #2 and can show "VNC halo" or "Kaboodle halo". > > > > In the function > > void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex) > > also exist block > > case EF_NID_MAC: ... > > That block doesn't checks flags #1, #2 directly. > > This block immediately creates a MAC icon - > > AddMacintosh(pDevAttribs->m_DeviceID,pDevAttribs->m_strAlias, > > pDevAttribs->m_iconIndex);//@VK9 > > The MAC icon doesn't knows data #1, #2 and can not show "VNC halo" or > > "Kaboodle halo". > > > > ******************************************************************** > > It is now: > > > > In the function > > void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex) > > exist common block for PC and MAC devices > > case EF_NID_PC: > > case EF_NID_MAC: ... > > That block call the function > > CEFIcon * CNetworkLocalView::AddPC_or_Macintosh(..., > > bool bKaboodleRunning, bool bVncListner,int iconIndex, int iType) > > for both types of device. > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > If I replace the Macintosh with a Windows98 PC that is > > > running VNC but is not running Kaboodle, it works correctly. > > > The VNC halo appears when it should, and the VNC Server list > > > shows the IP address of the Win98 PC. Also, the Property Panel > > > for PC's show four tabs: System Info, Components, VNC Setup, > > > and Icon Properties. For Mac's, there are only three (the > > > Components one is missing). If I change the Win98 PC's icon > > > to a Macintosh icon, the VNC halo still works correctly. > > > > > > I think this behavior is due to Kaboodle treating > > > Macintosh's different from the Win98 PC. That is, it seems to me > > > that the NID identifier which tells Kaboodle to put the Macintosh > > > into the "My Macs" icon group is *also* telling Kaboodle to not > > > treat the device like a Windows PC with regards to VNC and in > > > regards to what tabs to show in the Property Panel. Kaboodle > > > should treat Macintosh PC's and non-Kaboodle PC's the same in > > > *every way* except for the icon group and the "System Info" tab > > > in the Property Panel. > > > > > > Put another way, Kaboodle should treat all devices that > > > are not Printers or Appliances in the same way. Any one of these > > > PC's (running Windows, MacOS, Linux, whatever) can have a VNC > > > halo. All of these PC's which are not running Kaboodle should > > > have the same list of Property Tabs: System Info, VNC Setup, and > > > Icon Properties ("Components" should only appear on machines that > > > are running Kaboodle). All of these PC's which are not running > > > Kaboodle should be able to get a Kaboodle halo if a user on > > > that PC started up the application. > > > > > > Put another way, Kaboodle should treat the other devices > > > that it detects on the LAN in one of four ways: the device is > > > either a computer running Kaboodle, a computer not running > > > Kaboodle, a printer, or an appliance. For the second group > > > (PC's not running Kaboodle), the *only* reason that Kaboodle > > > tries to detect what operating system is running is so that > > > it can give the device a good icon. After assigning the device > > > a default icon and putting the icon into an icon group, Kaboodle > > > should stop treating a Macintosh differently from a Linux PC > > > or from a Windows PC not running Kaboodle. > > > > > > Please let me know this "bug report" makes any more > > > sense now. Thanks! > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > I don't understand the bug. > > > > Your sounds is like > > > > - "my Macintosh running VNC, but other Kaboodle don't know that" or, > > > > - "my Macintosh running Kaboodle, ...". > > > > May be you install some kind of OS Windows emulator on Macintosh? > > > > Please send me: > > > > - LAN configuration, including type of computer and type of OS, > > > > - description what computers running Kaboodle, > > > > - your screen shot (the image that you see); > > > > - description what you _must_ see on the screen; > > > > - Igor > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:52 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bog Report, 4 July > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > I checked today, and my Macintosh is still not being > > > > > treated like a PC in regards to VNC. Perhaps we should fix > > > > > this again, this time from the "icon code" or "NID type" point > > > > > of view. > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > Okay, I think you've found the problem then. Macintosh PC's > > > > > > really should be treated as just a subset of PC's. The *only* > > > > > > difference should be that, at startup, they are given a different > > > > > > icon and put into a different Icon group. But *that's all*. So > > > > > > it sounds like your changes to CEnumAllDevice are correct. It > > > > > > may have been easier to just have changed the "icon code" instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > Really, there are only three types of devices: PC's (ie, > > > > > > something that can run Kaboodle *or* VNC; Windows, MacOs, Linux, > > > > > > whatever), Printers, and Appliances (eg, a LinkSys router). This > > > > > > "type" field should be one of the first-most fields of the NID, > > > > > > I would think. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideally, the user should be able to *change* the auto- > > > > > > detected type of a device in the "Icon Property" PropTab. If they > > > > > > change, say, what we detected as a Printer to a PC, not only should > > > > > > they be able to change the icon, but the "VNC Tab" should appear > > > > > > in the PropPanel the next time it's opened. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 3. If I startup a VNC server on a PC not running Kaboodle, I > > > > > > > > > > can go the the PropPanel for that device and connect. No > > > > > > > > > > problem. But the VNC Service icon is not listing the > > device > > > > > > > > > > as a server, and the VNC halo is not being put on the > > device > > > > > > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw similar bugs. > > > > > > > > > It was several days earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've some more data. It only happens for me now if the > > > > > > > > VNC server is running on a Mac. I've got two other machines on > > > > > > > > my LAN that run VNC: a Mac and a WinNT laptop. The WinNT box > > > > > > > > is treated correctly by Kaboodle: it gets a VNC halo and it gets > > > > > > > > listed in the VNC servers in the VNC service icon. The Mac, > > > > > > > > though, doesn't get either. I can use Kaboodle to VNC into it, > > > > > > > > but only if I go thru the device's icon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps some of the code is looking at the "type" field > > > > > > > > of the NID, and only reacting to PC's, not Mac's? > > > > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > I don't know "MAC" part of Kaboodle's specification, > > > > > > > so all my discourses carry the approximate nature. > > > > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > Kaboodle source code has 30 strings which contain "type" field > > > > *EF_NID_PC*. > > > > > > > If your assumption is valid, then I think following. > > > > > > > Please see the class CEnumAllDevice in the file > > > > EF\ModifyRegWinVNC.cpp. > > > > > > > In the header file you can found following: > > > > > > > // This class enumerates all local object CNIDDevice which is PC. > > > > > > > // Own PC non include in this list. > > > > > > > That class enumerated PC device only. > > > > > > > The MAC objects were absent in Kaboodle when I wrote that class. > > > > > > > It seems to me that now the class CEnumAllDevice has to enumerate > > MAC > > > > > > > device also. > > > > > > > I added that enumerating into the class CEnumAllDevice. > > > > > > > But I must to underline next. > > > > > > > Current Kaboodle source code uses the class CEnumAllDevice in > > > > following > > > > > > > cases: > > > > > > > 1) - for VNC autodetection; > > > > > > > 2) - for filling list of VNC service icon; > > > > > > > 3) - for filling list of "Modify list" dialog > > > > > > > (please see "VNC setup" prop tab on server side); > > > > > > > 4) - for filling list of File Transfer service icon; > > > > > > > 5) - for filling list of "Accept files only from machines in..." > > > > dialog > > > > > > > (please see "Receive file" prop tab in File Transfer service > > icon). > > > > > > > Now all of #1-#5 will include not only PC devices, but also MAC > > > > devices. > > > > > > > Please let me know if it is not correct. > > > > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > Sorry, I didn't have a MAC PC in my LAN, so I cannot check above. > > > > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > Some other developers (I and Oleg) saw that bug on non MAC PC. > > > > > > > So I think that source code have also other NID updating bug. > > > > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > -Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > > > Stuff, things, and much much more. > > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Kaboodle-devel mailing list > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kaboodle-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > PC Mods, Computing goodies, cases & more > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Kaboodle-devel mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kaboodle-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Gadgets, caffeine, t-shirts, fun stuff. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Kaboodle-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kaboodle-devel
