Igor:
Sorry, "interface" is a non-Windows, unix concept.
Here's how I use it: if I have 2 ethernet cards and one modem,
my PC has four interfaces: 1 for each of the ethernet cards,
1 for the modem, and 1 for loopback. Each of these interfaces
may or may not have a non-zero IP address. For instance, if
1 of the ethernet cards was left unconnected, and I was not
using my modem, only two of my interfaces would have an IP
address assigned: my active ethernet card (eg, 192.168.1.7)
and my loopback (127.0.0.1).
Each interface can have its own default gateway. For an
ethernet card, the default gateway is typically the router for
the network. So the 192.168.1.7 interface might have a gateway
of 192.168.1.1. Note that the IP addresses are different.
For a modem, though, the default gateway of the interface
is *the same as* the IP address of that interface.
For Kaboodle, then a good process would be this:
1. Get a list of all active interfaces.
2. Go thru that list, and discard any interfaces that are
not active (ie, have an IP address of 0.0.0.0) or are
the loopback.
3. Go thru the list again and discard any interfaces which
have a "default gateway" IP address that matches the IP
address of the interface exactly.
4. Perform network discovery on whatever's left.
Hope this makes some sense! Feeddback welcome.
-Scott
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> Hello Scott.
> It isn't a problem to obtain the IP address of the default gateway.
> (That has implemented - please the function
> DWORD CheckLan::GetIpDefaultGateWay().)
> But I don't know how we can use that IP address.
> You wrote:
> >...if it detected that the IP address of
> > the interface matches the IP address of the default gateway.
> What *interface* you has in view of?
> - Igor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bug Report, 22 July
>
>
> > Igor:
> > Heya. As per the data I found today, could you implement
> > a check so that Kaboodle skipped the LAN-detection (and hence the
> > OS classification) process if it detected that the IP address of
> > the interface matches the IP address of the default gateway.
> > This might be the best way, for now, of Kaboodle surviving an
> > AOL-dialup setting.
> >
> > Once you get that check done, I think we can release
> > a 0.90 version publically.
> >
> > I'm also interested in what you think Kaboodle should
> > do if it detects it has more than one active LAN interface.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Scott.
> > > You wrote:
> > > > ... It lessens
> > > > Kaboodle's effectiveness as a network scanner if something joined
> > > > the LAN and could somehow dodge Kaboodle's detection by causing
> > > > an exception during OS detection and then hiding as a EF_NID_NONE.
> > > I restored old code of the function AutoDetectDeviceType()
> > > without *try-catch* block.
> > > If any exception will occur at that function,
> > > then there isn't a way for both
> > > defending against exception and
> > > don't hiding a device as an EF_NID_NONE.
> > > - Igor
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bug Report, 22 July
> > >
> > >
> > > > Igor:
> > > > Will re-run shortly. A quick comment or two:
> > > >
> > > > > The really reason of that crash is unknown for me yet,
> > > > > but I think that we have to defend Kaboodle against that.
> > > > > Therefore I have inserted a *try-catch* block into the function
> > > > > DWORD CSearchNetworkManager::AutoDetectDeviceType(...).
> > > > > If any exception will occur, and *try-catch* block can intercept it,
> > > > > then that function will return EF_NID_NONE
> > > > > and Kaboodle doesn't will add that device into itself.
> > > > > (Old source code of AutoDetectDeviceType(...) is commented.)
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm. I like defending against exceptions, but I like
> > > > being able to detect all network devices as well. It lessens
> > > > Kaboodle's effectiveness as a network scanner if something joined
> > > > the LAN and could somehow dodge Kaboodle's detection by causing
> > > > an exception during OS detection and then hiding as a EF_NID_NONE.
> > > >
> > > > There's *got* to be a way to detect what interfaces a PC
> > > > is using, and to prevent Kaboodle from running auto-detection on
> > > > the WAN-side interface.
> > > >
> > > > > Also I want to notice following.
> > > > > The function AutoDetectDeviceType(...) checks type of device
> > > > > in following sequence: PC, Printer, Macintosh, Appliance.
> > > > > If all these checks failed, then the function returns the type
> > > EF_NID_PC.
> > > > > May be in this point the function have to return EF_NID_NONE?
> > > >
> > > > No, it needs to default to EF_NID_PC. The PC detection is
> > > > really just "Windows detection". If I'm running a *nix machine (Linux,
> > > > Solaris, BSD, etc), I want the PC icon to come up.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > > > > Igor:
> > > > > > Updated, re-run, log files attached. Again, it looks
> > > > > > like its crashing after successfully discovering something on
> > > > > > the same subnet. Weird.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Scott.
> > > > > > > The log file WithAOL\NidLog.txt (connection via AOL and crash)
> > > > > > > shows following.
> > > > > > > The latest 3 strings are next:
> > > > > > > - StartOSDetection: BEGIN
> > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: BEGIN
> > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: 172.194.188.224
> > > > > > > It seems to me that crash has occurred
> > > > > > > - inwardly to the function
> > > > > > > DWORD CSearchNetworkManager::AutoDetectDeviceType(...), or
> > > > > > > - inwardly to some function, which called from
> > > AutoDetectDeviceType().
> > > > > > > (The log process is made so that if function ends then we see
> > > something
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: BEGIN
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: END)
> > > > > > > I have added enhanced information into the file NidLog.txt.
> > > > > > > Please update latest CVS source and run Kaboodle in debug build.
> > > > > > > Please send to me NidLog.txt.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You wrote:
> > > > > > > > ...Perhaps the OS detection process is not being bypassed
> > > correctly?
> > > > > > > Yes. From above log file I see, that OS detection process starts
> in
> > > case
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > connection via AOL.
> > > > > > > I didn't found Kaboodle's source code, which detect a modem.
> > > > > > > Now I don't know as to detect a modem.
> > > > > > > I'll try to search that.
> > > > > > > - Igor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Igor:
> > > > > > > > Hello! I ran the latest CVS code in debug mode on my
> > > > > > > > Win98 laptop. It crashed whenever I ran it with AOL connected.
> > > > > > > > The attached zipfile has three log file sets in there.
> > > > > > > > One with no-AOL and no-LAN connection (no crash), one with
> > > > > > > > a LAN connection (no crash) and one with AOL (crash). The AOL
> > > > > > > > case looks like it does in fact start running OS detection.
> > > > > > > > I know we agreed that the network detection process
> > > > > > > > should be bypassed when Kaboodle connects to the Internet via
> > > > > > > > a modem. Perhaps the OS detection process is not being
> bypassed
> > > > > > > > correctly?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Scott.
> > > > > > > > > I don't found any information about error.
> > > > > > > > > Please update latest CVS source and run Kaboodle in debug
> build.
> > > > > > > > > You will find new log file - NidLog.txt.
> > > > > > > > > Please send that file to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The log files vpnsocket1.txt, vpnsocket2.txt now generate in
> > > > > Kaboodle
> > > > > > > > > install directory.
> > > > > > > > > That files appeared in pre-Akmosoft period.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Igor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:32 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Igor:
> > > > > > > > > > The Kaboodle log files are attached. I didn't even
> > > > > > > > > > know Kaboodle was generating these. :) Can we write them
> > > > > > > > > > into the Kaboodle install directory instead of C:\.?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please let me know what progress you make on this
> > > > > > > > > > error source. It's holding up the public release of 0.90.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott.
> > > > > > > > > > > The output files you have attached were really short.
> > > > > > > > > > > Please attach the Kaboodle's log files vpnsocket1.txt,
> > > > > > > vpnsocket2.txt.
> > > > > > > > > > > You can find these files in the directory C:\.
> > > > > > > > > > > Please remove these files before your test.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The description of "A fatal exception OE" can be finding
> on
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/windows/topics/error
> > > > > > > > > > > msg/kbfe0e.asp
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > - Igor
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: "Kaboodle-devel"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:57 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > VK, Igor:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I tested this again tonight. I installed VC++ on my
> > > > > > > > > > > > poor little Win98 laptop, applied the latest SP5
> service
> > > pack.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I compiled the latest source, connected to AOL, and
> > > started
> > > > > > > > > > > > the debug. Output attached (I don't know why it's so
> > > short,
> > > > > > > > > > > > but it is).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaboodle starts, and the "Detecting Network" message
> > > > > > > > > > > > box comes up. At this point, in my opinion, it should
> > > detect
> > > > > > > > > > > > that it's on a modem and give up. It doesn't. About
> half a
> > > > > > > > > > > > minute later, "Classifying New Devices" comes up.
> About 10
> > > > > > > > > > > > seconds later, Windows then blue screens with the
> message:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "A fatal exception OE has occurred at 0028:C004A08B in
> VXD
> > > > > > > NDIS(01) +
> > > > > > > > > > > > 00002F1F. The current application will be terminated."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The second time I tried this, the debug output looks
> > > > > > > > > > > > like it started the VNC auto-detection before it
> crashed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any advice appreciated.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Scott C. Best wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I tested Kaboodle on a un-networked Win98 machine
> which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > uses AOL as the dialup ISP. I connected to AOL, then
> > > started
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaboodle, and it blue-screen'd the PC when it got to
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Classifying Devices" part of startup.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ouch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to restrict network detection to use
> only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > LAN-based interfaces, as opposed to
> modem-interfaces? I
> > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that we'd ever want to ping 255 devices on
> one
> > > of
> > > > > AOL's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > subnets...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott
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