The only other computer around here that could function as a pdc is the webserver and active directory is not installed on that macine so I doubt it. Im pretty darn certain that nothing around here works on a domain. There is absolutley nothing to suggest that is the case and almost ever computer I have set up Ive stuck in a workgroup. All the pcs are that way at least. I could promote that computer again but I don't think i can return it to its orginal condition. Im kind of like you this domain stuff is way beyond me. We keep it simple around here. Even if I did that that would not solve the problem. I can't see any other possible backup machines from the webserver unless I go by IP but like i said Ghost won't let me do that. Grrrrrr.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 1:01 PM
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You start reaching the end of my knowledge here, but I know it can't be good that it says it's the pdc.
 
 
You'll notice that it says there should only be one pdc on the network. Is it possible that either it was the pdc when it was originally up all of the time or that it is setup for a different domain? It's possible that you could have powered up 2 pdc's at the same time, the impact of which is way beyond my knowledge. It's possible that the computers on the network are now looking for it to be the pdc even though by your statements, there should either be another pdc up or you shouldn't be on a domain at all. You keep mentioning workgroups, which are opposite from a domain network, so is it possible that you just run everything on a workgroup normally without a pdc, and you confused the situation by powering up a pdc? Are you logging in to all of the computers as a domain user or a local user with access to the workgroup?
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Adaryl Wakefield
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:57 PM
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OK but what does that mean exactly that its the primary domain controller. According to  my network diagram it should have had little impact. In fact that computer sits off most of the time with no problems.
 
Adaryl "Did you reboot?" Wakefield
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] SA help (OT)

It sounds to me like that really was your primary domain controller and you just took it down. Everything happened when you demoted it. I'd suggest getting it set back up as a pdc and crossing your fingers and finding another server to back up to.
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Adaryl Wakefield
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:33 PM
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Ok well here is what I was doing. I was putting Norton Ghost on the webserver to back it up to a harddrive on the network. I mapped a drive on the gateway to the server I wanted to back up to and continued to set up Ghost. Ghost told me that it would not take a mapped drive that did not use a computer name. I then tried to change the name of the backup computer and it told me no cause it was a primary domain controller. Someone else did this work. I figured it was part of the internal mail system that we no longer use so i ran dcpromo, demoted the computer and changed the name. I then went back to the webserver and tried to map a drive using the new name of the back up computer and it was like no. So then I glare at it for a while with my lip curled up. I ran around to some other computers and discovered that I could see the backup computer from other PCs in the office but I could not see the webserver. On the webserver despite the fact that its part of the same workgroup as all the other computers the network places window is empty like its the only computer on the network. Actually the webserver its self does not even show up. Its all on the same work group with static IPs and no firewall changes. Oddly enough now we can't surf the net but we can see our webpage. All gateways and DNSes ping out fine. I don't know if the network thing and the web thing are related. Its been a very hair pulling morning and I don't have any hair.
 
Adaryl "Did you reboot?" Wakefield
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:58 AM
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I'm not going to claim any form of expertise in these matters, so I'm just going to list maybe some questions that might spark an idea in your head as to what might have happened. I know that when a computer logs on to the network, it has to negotiate the ip from the dhcp server, but then it has to register itself with the primary dns server on the network for your dns mapping of machine name to ip to work. Has your primary dns server failed? You should have a secondary dns server also, and has it failed? Have new firewalls been installed on any of the machines affected or any of the primary dns/dhcp servers that might be blocking the necessary communication between the machines? Is there a domain involved or is it just a workgroup? Have any of the network settings been changed recently for either the domain, or any of the machines? How long has it been since you've noticed these problems? It normally seems to take maybe 10 - 15 minutes for the dns to register on the domain just from my experience, and sometimes quite a bit longer. What has changed recently around the same time as the problems started happening?
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Adaryl Wakefield
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:49 AM
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What does it mean when you can find a computer on the network by IP but not by computer name? I have three computers all in the same workgroup. A webserver a backup server and a workstation. I can't see the backup server from the webserver but I can see the backup server from my workstation. I can see the backup server from the webserver if I map a drive using the IP address but not the computer name.
  
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