----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 1:01
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Subject: RE: [KCFusion] SA help
(OT)
You
start reaching the end of my knowledge here, but I know it can't be good that
it says it's the pdc.
You'll notice that it says there should only be one pdc on the network.
Is it possible that either it was the pdc when it was originally up all of the
time or that it is setup for a different domain? It's possible that you could
have powered up 2 pdc's at the same time, the impact of which is way beyond my
knowledge. It's possible that the computers on the network are now looking for
it to be the pdc even though by your statements, there should either be
another pdc up or you shouldn't be on a domain at all. You keep mentioning
workgroups, which are opposite from a domain network, so is it possible that
you just run everything on a workgroup normally without a pdc, and you
confused the situation by powering up a pdc? Are you logging in to all of the
computers as a domain user or a local user with access to the workgroup?
Bruce Dunwiddie
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OK but what does that mean exactly that its the
primary domain controller. According to my network diagram it should
have had little impact. In fact that computer sits off most of the time with
no problems.
Adaryl "Did you reboot?" Wakefield
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:41
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Subject: RE: [KCFusion] SA help
(OT)
It sounds to me like that really was your primary domain controller
and you just took it down. Everything happened when you demoted it. I'd
suggest getting it set back up as a pdc and crossing your fingers and
finding another server to back up to.
Bruce Dunwiddie
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Ok well here is what I was doing. I was
putting Norton Ghost on the webserver to back it up to a harddrive on
the network. I mapped a drive on the gateway to the server I wanted to
back up to and continued to set up Ghost. Ghost told me that it would
not take a mapped drive that did not use a computer name. I then tried
to change the name of the backup computer and it told me no cause it was
a primary domain controller. Someone else did this work. I figured it
was part of the internal mail system that we no longer use so i ran
dcpromo, demoted the computer and changed the name. I then went back
to the webserver and tried to map a drive using the new name
of the back up computer and it was like no. So then I glare at it
for a while with my lip curled up. I ran around to some other computers
and discovered that I could see the backup computer from other PCs
in the office but I could not see the webserver. On the webserver
despite the fact that its part of the same workgroup as all the other
computers the network places window is empty like its the only computer
on the network. Actually the webserver its self does not even show up.
Its all on the same work group with static IPs and no firewall
changes. Oddly enough now we can't surf the net but we can see our
webpage. All gateways and DNSes ping out fine. I don't know if the
network thing and the web thing are related. Its been a very hair
pulling morning and I don't have any hair.
Adaryl "Did you reboot?" Wakefield
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004
11:58 AM
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] SA help
(OT)
I'm not going to claim any form of expertise in these matters,
so I'm just going to list maybe some questions that might spark an
idea in your head as to what might have happened. I know that
when a computer logs on to the network, it has to negotiate the
ip from the dhcp server, but then it has to register itself with the
primary dns server on the network for your dns mapping of machine name
to ip to work. Has your primary dns server failed? You should have a
secondary dns server also, and has it failed? Have new firewalls been
installed on any of the machines affected or any of the primary
dns/dhcp servers that might be blocking the necessary communication
between the machines? Is there a domain involved or is it just a
workgroup? Have any of the network settings been changed recently for
either the domain, or any of the machines? How long has it been since
you've noticed these problems? It normally seems to take maybe 10 - 15
minutes for the dns to register on the domain just from my experience,
and sometimes quite a bit longer. What has changed recently around the
same time as the problems started happening?
Bruce Dunwiddie
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What does it mean when you can find a
computer on the network by IP but not by computer name? I have three
computers all in the same workgroup. A webserver a backup
server and a workstation. I can't see the backup server from the
webserver but I can see the backup server from my workstation.
I can see the backup server from the webserver if I map a drive
using the IP address but not the computer name.
Adaryl "Did you reboot?"
Wakefield
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