El Dijous, 24 d'abril de 2014, a les 12:02:38, Aleix Pol va escriure: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> wrote: > > El Dimarts, 22 d'abril de 2014, a les 11:31:02, Mario Fux va escriure: > > > Proposal: > > > Reduce the amount of KDE Core Apps according to a definition and release > > > > the > > > > > other apps in independent groups or suites like e.g. KDE Edu, KDE Games, > > > KDE PIM, Amarok or the Calligra Suite. > > > > > > Details: > > > We could decide on a group of KDE Core Apps (for the Desktop) based on a > > > definition like this: > > > - Allows you to manage your files and documents (e.g. => Dolphin, Ark, > > > > K3b?) > > > > > - Allows you to view documents and pictures (e.g. => Okular and > > > > Gwenview) - > > > > > Allows you to watch movies and listen to music (e.g. => Dragon and Juk) > > > - > > > Allows you to administrate and manage your system (e.g. => > > > print-manager, > > > ksane, systemsettings) > > > - Allows you to do this in an accessible way*: (e.g. => Simon, Jovie and > > > > Co) > > > > > - Allows you to write some notes and find them again (e.g. => > > > > Kate/Kwrite) > > > > > * A really nice promo argument. And as we as a community are inclusive > > > > this > > > > > is the only thing the makes sense. Make our (core) apps accessible by > > > default. > > > > > > About the current modules [1] we have and released it's a very > > > unbalanced > > > thing. Just compare KDEAdmin or KDEToys with KDEEdu or KDEPIM. > > > > There's no such think as "KDEAdmin" from a releasing point of view, we > > just > > release tarballs of some apps that happen to be in that "virtual" module > > in > > projects.kde.org, but besides that, it's just single apps. > > > > > So I think a > > > reduction and rearrangement is the best thing. About the release of > > > these > > > Core Apps, Edu Suite, PIM Collection and Co see one of the next > > > > proposals. > > > > > These suites or groups could then decide on their own if they want > > > > include > > > > > new apps like e.g. KBibTeX or Rkward in KDEEdu or Trojita in KDEPIM. > > > > Which is what they already do, no? > > > > > But I think these core apps (or call it differently) should be very well > > > maintained, probably team maintained, have good unit and regression > > > tests > > > and good bug triage and bug handling. Reduced to the core and let it > > > > shine. > > > > I don't think "team maintainance" makes much sense beyond basic bugs, I > > don't > > think I can fix a non trivial bug in Ark (fwiw i've tried [though not very > > hard] :D) > > > > > Next steps: > > > - Work on the definition for the KDE Core Apps (for Desktop). > > > - Decide on the applications that fulfill this definition. > > > - Define the minimum requirements these core apps need to fulfill to be > > > released. > > > - See what other suites or groups are logical and possible. > > > - Discuss and agree an development and review work for these core apps. > > > - Decide on a name for the "core apps". > > > > Sincerely I don't see the point of this proposal, we're already releasing > > those core apps, and yes, they need better unit tests, and they need more > > manpower, but I don't see how creating an this "Core Apps vs Suites" is > > going > > to help with these issues. > > > > Moreover I'm sure someone will be pissed off because his app is not > > considered > > to be core. > > I think that what Mario meant here, is that we need to provide hints to the > distributions regarding what applications should be shipped with a Plasma > Desktop installation. > > What we currently call Plasma Desktop is not a full desktop suite because > it lacks many applications that, arguably, are not related to Plasma but > Plasma depends on, again like Dolphin.
Why does Plasma depend on Dolphin? I can use any other file manager just as well, no? Cheers, Albert > > > Cheers, > > > > Albert > > > > > Now please tell me your opinion in a short, constructive and polite way. > > > Details can be discussed in Randa and/or at Akademy. So let's > > > > concentrate on > > > > > the bigger ideas. > > > > > > Thanks and best regards > > > Mario > > Aleix _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
