On 12/08/2014 11:33 PM, Laszlo Papp wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Alex Merry <alex.me...@kde.org> wrote:
As Valorie said, if you want more female talk submissions,

I am afraid that I am personally not yet sure whether I wish that. I
am not going to those places and events to see beautiful ladies, get
dates later and the like. What I personally would like is the most
qualified submissions. Whether that happens to be from a male, female,
etc, that does not matter so much to me. When I visit these
conferences I would like to have the best technical experience and
then the socialization as the secondary trait. Even then, I do not
mind what gender I am socializing with.

I hope that this effort for fixing the "gender ratio" will not
compromise the quality of the conferences. I personally believe more
in meritocracy than "genderocracy". Therefore, I would rather put the
effort into attracting world-wide and recognized industry and
community experts than ladies just for the sake of being females.

I agree about the CoC, however, gender independently. This is not such
a big concern for me, but I appreciate that if it is for some other
people. I have personally never seen the QtCS, Qt dev days, etc, code
of conducts either and they were amazing events. Qt dev days in Munich
(2011?) had many ladies around, too. Either way, If the organizers can
do something to make the attendants feel comfortable without too much
extra work, I think they ought to try.


A few thoughts on that:

* The above diatribe is largely an example of yesterday's conflict.
  If you look at the gender ratio in CS courses at universities
  today, or the gender ratio in demographically younger work forces
  in companies, the gender ratio has already shifted. Ours hasn't by
  as much, though, which means we're starting to miss out on tapping
  into available talent, which we should definitely care about for
  open source to remain competitive. These kinds of efforts don't
  exist as let's-pat-ourselves-on-our-backs feel-good initiatives
  anymore. I recommend treating it as a PR and recruitment problem:
  We want to be more attractive to female contributors simply for
  the health of our contributor base. And I think we should be in-
  tentionally aggressive about pursuing that talent.

* And that PR problem is real. I've been interacting with young,
  bright, female recent CS graduates a bunch of times this year,
  and especially the older FOSS communities tend have a rap of being
  stuffy, kind of off-putting boys' clubs. I recommend stepping
  outside the bubble now and then -- you might be surprised how
  others perceive you. It's not a nice experience.

* In a broader industry context, one of the main things KDE cares
  about is making socially responsible software. Using open source
  licenses, or caring about lowering power usage - many things we do
  are about technology palatable for society, instead of being a
  burden on it. Technology is also a main driver of change in the
  job market right now, causing numerous professions to grow
  obsolete. Tech-related careers remain - for now - as one in a
  dwindling field of options that promise self-supporting employ-
  ment. I think there's an argument for caring about the industry-
  wide gender ratio in that context, because as we head into these
  future problems, a world in which unemployment is heavily corre-
  lated with gender would be Pretty Damn Bad. As I'd like open
  source to scale to industry-size, I think it'd be nice to work
  on these things on our turf.


Cheers,
Eike
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