Let's take one of your examples: some imaginary sensory tech that follows your mind. It's going to be a competitive advantage to both Plasma and applications, for sure. Can it be a KDE project? Yes, because it clearly brings KDE closer to its goal. And actually, both visions/missions would support inclusion of such a tech into KDE.
Let's consider another example. This time it will be the imaginary free Github replacement. This time the tech is too far away from user-end apps and shells. Let's say it wants to join KDE. Under the "inclusive" proposal such a project will be welcomed. Under "focused" - no. PS: I did not say that _all_ new tech should be developed outside of KDE. What I wanted to say that for the free software project to succeed, it does not have to be included into any larger project/community. On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > On Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:52:34 AM CET Alexander Dymo wrote: >> Focused does not mean exclusive. Every technology (and not only >> technology) that gets us to the point where all users use KDE shells >> and apps (because of their superiority) is welcome. IMHO, of course. > > sorry, but I cannot follow you. What you wrote here is inclusive again. So > what you want now: focus on a technology or being inclusive to everything? > >> >> Another point is that not everything needs to be built in house. When >> I started free software development, it was harder for independent >> small projects to survive. It was much better for them to join the big >> groups, like GNU, GNOME, KDE, etc. Now this is not the case. So I'd >> expect some of the technologies that KDE can use to be actually >> developed elsewhere. > > And here you basically say any development on new technologies should happen > outside of KDE. Which is pretty excluding and contradicting to what you write > above. > > To me this is really confusing as I don't see how that can aid us in finding a > direction. > > Further clarifications are appreciated. Right now I'm more confused than > before. > > Cheers > Martin > >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> > wrote: >> > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 11:44:35 PM CET Alexander Dymo wrote: >> >> I reread both drafts and realized that people who have not >> >> participated in the development of these proposals might miss the >> >> important difference between them. >> >> >> >> The Lydia & Co see KDE providing users free software to manage any >> >> aspect of their digital life: GUI environments, applications (GUI and >> >> not), knowledge management systems, etc. >> >> >> >> The AlexN. & Co see KDE providing users free GUI environments and >> >> applications that work on any computing device: desktop, laptop, >> >> tablet, smartphone, or any other device present and future. >> > >> > may I ask where the focused group sees the future in a world beyond GUI, >> > I'm thinking of areas like: >> > * speech recognition (e.g. KDE Lera) >> > * IoT >> > * Sensors (think of the old joke of "Focus Follows Mind", but we're almost >> > there) >> > >> > Cheers >> > Martin >> > _______________________________________________ >> > kde-community mailing list >> > kde-community@kde.org >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kde-community mailing list >> kde-community@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > > > _______________________________________________ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community