On mercoledì 9 agosto 2017 00:19:32 CEST, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
Hi everyone,
now that hopefully most of the emotional arguments in fiery support of one
protocol or another have been exchanged, I'd suggest we move
things towards a
practical approach and ask ourselves:
What are the requirements that KDE has for an instant messaging
/ chat system
for it to be viable as our main channel for real-time communication for the
foreseeable future?
Here is what I could come up with, feel free to add new requirements or
challenge the ones I'm listing.
Must-have:
- FOSS clients or at least API available for desktop as well as mobile
These clients must
- have a UI that someone who is < 20 years old and cares about
the looks of a
UI would use (or if those don't exist, we need to have people
willing and able
to write them before switching)
- run smoothly on computers that can run most other KDE software, without
eating all of their memory
- FOSS server implementation
(this might look like a nice-to-have for some, but if we'd
require everyone in
KDE to use it, it's not optional)
- Ability to use without having to create a new account just for that.
We could force contributors to sign up for something, but we'd increase the
barrier of entry if we'd make it mandatory for everyone who's just curious
about what's happening in KDE.
Identity would suffice, as everyone who does anything with KDE
has an Identity
account anyway.
- Permanent logs across mobile and desktop clients without the
need for users
to set up anything.
That means ZNC does not count unless we implement it in a
desktop as well as
mobile client in a way that is completely friction-free for users
- Easy way to share files
A solution that puts files automatically on share.kde.org and
embeds them from
there works only if we have people willing and able to
implement that feature
into a desktop- as well as mobile client
- Support for a decent set of Emoji (not just the ones you can create using
ASCII chars).
Using Unicode to display them is probably okay, as long as users can choose
them from a menu in the client instead of having to paste them from
KCharSelect.
This, too, might sound like nice-to-have for many, but not
having them would
cut us off from the younger generation. Yes, they use them even in a
"professional context". Believe me, I'm seeing it in action
every day at work.
- User avatars
Again, must-have if we want to reach the younger generation
- Uses a port that is open even on educational networks
- Channel listing
So that every public channel can be easily found
Nice-to-haves:
- Bridge to IRC
For the transitional period or for people who just refuse to change their
habits
- Full name display
Makes things feel more trustworthy
- Integration with our development tools such as Phabricator
- Web client
Very handy if you are at a device which isn't yours and quickly
want to check
up on things
- Stickers
People love them when they have them, but they survive without them.
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I'm sure I've forgot many things, but this (already quite long) list should
give us a good start.
We should probably also ask the sysadmin team whether they would be willing
to maintain our own chat server. Currently freenode is a third-party
service, while switching to a self-hosted solution would probably increase
the burden on the sysadmin people and also on the server infrastructure.
Looking forward to a productive discussion,
Thomas
