Am Mittwoch, 24. Mai 2023, 15:06:12 CEST schrieb Carl Schwan: > On Monday, 22 May 2023 00:26:09 CEST argonel wrote: > Hi, > > > I would argue that the low usage is in part due to lack of awareness. > > It has a one-line mention on the "Internet Relay Chat" community wiki > > page (which wasn't added until 2019) that doesn't even explain the > > benefits of using it.
> I understand that this requirement is due to some technical issues, as IRC > doesn't support having so many connections open at the same time but it's a > bit wrong to blame Matrix for that. I do wonder why BNC is not affected by > this policy, but I suppose it's because there are way less users using IRC. A bit offtopic, but since the question was in the room: Due to Element in the past (and still, plus other issues) was very very bad at cleaning up dead / zombie connections, duplication issues partially due to reasons already mentioned, a very shaky bridge which produces lots of noise during (multiple) restarts ... this was a requirement that we (Libera we) set on Element. Also wrt i-lines: these are indeed still needed, and given loads of inactive connections, the i-line for Element had to be _huge_ (and we don't talk twice or four or six time the size of others, it was magnitudes of multitudes more) which is quite a risk and thus was also not sustainable long time. None of this applies to BNCs, plus with most if not all of the BNC providers being a lot more cooperative when it comes to issues, especially wrt abuse, noise and spam, they need fewer restrictions. But yes, for this restriction Matrix the protocol is not to blame. > Cheers, > Carl Kind regards, Christian