On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:49:07 +0100, Harald Sitter <sit...@kde.org> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Matthias Klumpp <matth...@tenstral.net> wrote:
2014-02-17 13:55 GMT+01:00 Lukáš Tinkl <lti...@redhat.com>:
Dne 17.2.2014 11:51, Harald Sitter napsal(a):

Ahoys

I was looking for some input on KDM+CK in a Logind world. When a
system is using Logind I guess KDM+CK doesn't do much useful, so the
question arose whether distributions with such a lineup should build
without CK support. In short:

If the rest of the system uses Logind, should KDM be built without CK
support?

Would building without CK support reduce user functionality, and if so
aren't we then essentially requiring distributions that use KDM to
continue using CK until Plasma Next comes along? (we are not
communicating this very if this is the case).
Hi,
I'm not entirely sure about kdm but for the rest of the code in
kde-workspace (kworkspace, powerdevil et co.), login1 support is fairly
complete and preferred over CK.
We are using a KDE 4.11 systemd running on pure logind in Tanglu
without any reported issues. KDM has multiseat patches applied, which
were taken from[1].
We also adjusted some other dependencies, but that was just minor work
on the packaging.
So yes, you can use KDM with logind, but I am not sure that using it
at all will make sense long-term, since KDM is dead now.

Right, but short of patching KDM to gain proper logind support, should
one build with or without CK, i.e. does CK add anything useful if the
rest of the system is not using it anyway?

I mean, it's a crappy situation either way. The DM we ship with our
workspace is not maintained and suggests usage of CK while the rest of
the workspace really wants logind, so, not the most consistent
requirement set to begin with.

HS

Hey,

I already responded to the list but here goes again as the mail doesn't seem to be approved any time soon:

No, I don't think you really need CK, everything is handled automagically by logind now. In Fedora, we don't actually ship the deamon anymore and everything is going on fine. Yes, KDM still depends on the library but it doesn't communicate with anything.

Cheers,
Martin

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