On Saturday 08 December 2012 23:57:35 Dion Moult wrote:
> Every so often, I will pick the users top choices that seem plausible and
> will bring them to _you_, and discuss how to evolve the idea into something
> that could be implemented. Then we can open up an enhancement bug report in
> BKO, and start getting some brainstorm ideas along the Submitted->In
> progress->Done chain.
The problem here is that nobody in the brainstorm section can know what "could 
be implemented" without feedback from the developers. And I don't think it 
makes any sense to just move the wishes from brainstorm to bko. Happened for 
kwin a few times and actually it was always a "meh, that's too complex" or 
"meh, that doesn't fit at all our design". Ending in that the proper response 
would have been to directly close as WONTFIX. I cannot remember to have ever 
gotten any user feedback that I implemented (either on bko or on brainstorm). 
Also I do not accept that a few users voting for a feature represent the 
opinion of the user base.

So my suggestion would be to get the developers' feedback into brainstorm to 
figure out what the developers think about it. Let them tell the users what 
they think about it. I think it's more honest to say that "this would require 
at least a person month of work, so don't expect it ever to happen" then to 
give users the feeling that they are ignored.

Another general problem is that developers probably have their own agenda and 
have their own ideas on how to take the software further. Personally I doubt 
that anyone is waiting for users to come up with new ideas. So I see user 
suggested features at max as something for new developers.

With what I just wrote I realize that there would be the valid question on why 
we ask the users at all for ideas if in the end we would ignore them. If 
handled correctly we can give users feedback what we think about their ideas 
and that it can take years with nothing happening. But it also could provide a 
list of ideas for new developers similar to the junior jobs.

Best Regards
Martin Gräßlin

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