> and you marry upstream binaries with the distribution update-manager how?
You don't need to. The app can just check the latest bugfix for that version on git and install it if it isn't installed. I don't understand why you stress the need for the package manager to have anything to do with the update if it's just a bug fix. > in the way that distributions have different library versions Ok, I think I get your point. Some libraries add/remove/replace features and KDE projects may be using macros to make all library versions work. I hadn't thought of that. > bla So the teensy weensy security risk is suddenly a huge deal and when I try to fix it for you I'm talking nonsense? > more space than some of my systems at a whole It's like 30 megabytes. > a little bit of more realistic view for such nosense would be nice too > if anything you propose would become real i had to switch away from KDE If you got a notification saying "Minor bug fix released for Kate. Would you like to install an update without using the package manager?", would it be so bad that you would drop KDE? Because that's all I was suggesting (only without the "without the package manager" part because I was just communicating my point).