Am 02.12.25 um 23:24 schrieb Tobias Leupold:
Hi all,
I just stumbled upon https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8955.0.html
where some Artix user ranted about Plasma going "Wayland-only", and
questioning if Plasma would choose the same path as Gnome (which was or will
be actually removed from Artix due to hard dependencies on Systemd).
I myself don't use Systemd distributions (Gentoo, Artix and Devuan for me, all
with OpenRC), always using X. And I still don't really get the point of
Wayland's raison d'être. I'm not really fully into this though. But with
Xlibre raising, we apparently will get a X successor that will fix X's flaws
without being Wayland – which still seems to be discussed controversially
after all this years.
So, without having a deep knowledge of all this, and without wanting to start
some flame-war: What's the status of Plasma concerning Wayland and Xlibre? Why
do we want to take sides to Wayland, even if Xlibre emerged recently?
I'd love continuing seeing freedom of choice, may it be the init system or the
display server. That's the whole point of what we do, no?
Thanks for all insights about this!
Cheers, Tobias
Hi,
I won't go into detail about the history and merits of Wayland vs X11,
there's plenty of articles, blog posts, and conference talks out there
that can do this much better than me.
I will point you to
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/X11_Known_Significant_Issues though.
Most of the items in that list are unfeasible to fix under X11.
As described in
https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-future/
Plasma will drop X11 in 6.8.
XLibre is not and will not be supported by Plasma in any way. Not only
is it driven by people who demonstrate a lack of ability to properly
maintain such a project (and show rather questionable world views), it
also will not address any of the fundamental architectural flaws in X11.
Cheers
Nico
