On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 11:06 -0700, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:15:52PM +0400, Vitaly Wool wrote:
> > On 9/8/06, Tom Rini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >When do you want KGDB compiled in, but not usable?  Trying to debug a
> > >module, and building the module with debug info, but not the kernel
> > >itself?
> > 
> > Well, that's one of the options. The other thing is, as Kevin Hilman
> > states. there might be some cases in which a bug 'disappears' when the
> > kernel is compiled with -g.
> 
> I know that used to be a problem, but is that still a concern?  If so, a
> big enough concern to make it easy to get things wrong in other cases?

I'd wager 10 to 1 that compiling -g has no impact on performance. It
did in the old days and with Sun's C compiler but GCC has fixed that
problem about a decade ago.

> 
> > BTW, why do you say that KGDB is not usable when debug info is not
> > compiled in? You can still set a breakpoint and watch the variables
> > etc. etc...
> 
> Er, unless I'm missing something, you have to do that by manually
> setting breakpoints/etc at the address, rather than symbolic names.
> Which, IMHO, is a bit hard core :)

You do have access to global variables and functions in code compiled
without -g but that's a really horribly limiting environment to
develop/debug in. 

I do see a need for being able to enable more envasive changes in the
kernel with kgdb options. For enable compiling -O0 and converting 
static inline functions to simple static functions. 

I've never seen a case with gcc for needing to turn off -g. If
gcc ever changes code behavior with -g enabled it's a very serious
compiler bug.


-piet

> 
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