We could hold this until after 5.0 and either add an ERC check, or better yet make it so that you can't actually make connections to invisible pins?
-Jon On Feb 7, 2018 08:29, "Maciej Sumiński" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > No, I have not reviewed the patch. I had some doubts about potential > problems caused by invisible pins creating hidden connections. If user > is neither aware of their presence when selecting a symbol, nor will > notice them after they are placed on a schematic sheet then he may end > up accidentally connecting them to some wires. IIRC we do not have an > ERC test to check against such case, so I was not sure if it is a safe > change. > > Cheers, > Orson > > On 02/07/2018 02:21 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > Orson, > > > > Did you ever respond to Jon about this? I guess the question is whether > > or not to show invisible pins in the component chooser. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Wayne > > > > On 1/15/2018 9:31 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > >> Hi Orson, patch is attached again, hopefully it goes through this time. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jon > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:24 AM, Rene Pöschl <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> On 15/01/18 10:00, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps we should have an ERC rule > >> that warns about invisible pins being connected to a wire, any > >> thoughts? > >> > >> > >> Invisible pins are used for three distinct applications. > >> > >> The first one is to remove clutter by hiding pins that should not be > >> connected. ERC will complain if you connect such pins if they have > the > >> electrical type "Not connected". > >> > >> The second application is to create "power labels". A invisible > power > >> input pin is handled as a global label. These pins are meant to be > >> connected. > >> > >> The third application is again to remove clutter by stacking pins. > Here > >> you have one visible pin and several other invisible pins at the > same > >> location. (Normally all these pins have the same name and electrical > >> type. With the exception of power input pins, power output pins and > >> output pins.) > >> Such pins are again meant to be connected. > >> > >> This means a ERC rule that complains about connecting hidden pins > will > >> create too many false positives. Having a lot of false positives > means > >> users will start to ignore ERC output. > >> > >> It might be a good idea to have a symbol checker that complains if > >> invisible pins are used differently than i described above. > >> In other words: complain for invisible pins if they are not part of > a > >> stack or of types NC or power input. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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