On 8/28/2018 12:48 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: > Right now we have no changes made that would break projects. (That is > what i meant with "backwards compatibility" I know it is not quite the > right term) > > Also i thought the cache lib plus rescue dialog should take care of > minor changes to symbols if the user does not want to update a symbol > should it be changed.
Yes, but I do not like depending on the cache. It's too fragile. Once the new schematic file format is in place, this will no be an issue. Until then, I prefer to error on the side of caution given the cache issues we've had in the past. > It should not even be necessary as we do not allow changes to symbol pin > numbers or positions. (Unless there was a mistake in the symbol.) > > As we did not include any of the wrongly scaled or wrongly aligned 3d > models in the version 5 library there is also no danger of damaging the > 3d rendering side. (There is a reason why the version 5 3d model library > is a lot smaller compared to the version 4 3d model lib) > > We do neither allow changing any library names nor do we change symbol, > footprint or 3d model names unless the original name was wrong enough to > be in danger of being confused with a part different to the one that the > object really represents. > > If you do not intend to include the library then i will lift the ban on > major changes as it does not make any sense in that case to hold back. > (The only reason would be to allow including bugfixes into future kicad > bugfix releases. I would include updating to newer industry standards as > bugfix. The later is the main work being continued on the footprint > side. We simply where not done with it with the v5 release but it was > not bad enough to postpone the release.) I didn't realize you were keeping tight control of the library commits. I'm fine with these changes being added to 5.0.1. I would like to keep the libraries relatively stable during the entire 5 stable series. For version 6, you can make whatever changes you see fit. > > > On 28/08/18 18:30, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> I would be careful with any library improvements during stable bug fix >> releases, particularly for symbol and 3d model libraries which are >> linked rather than embedded. My preference would be to just use the >> same libraries tagged for the 5.0.0 release to keep changes to user >> designs to a minimum. Users can always download the latest libraries if >> they prefer the bleeding edge. >> >> On 8/28/2018 12:18 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: >>> Is it planned to include a new version of the libraries as well? >>> Right now we ensure that the library is relatively stable so i think the >>> improvements made since the v5 release can easily be included. >>> (We do not allow major changes that would break backward compatibility. >>> My plan is to use this rule at least till after the 5.1 release. Maybe >>> even until the new file format is well enough implemented to play around >>> with it in the official library.) >>> >>> On 27/08/18 21:38, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>>> I would like to get the 5.0.1 release out by the end of September if at >>>> all possible. There are still a few open bug reports which need to be >>>> fixed before we can release this so if you can fix any of the ones that >>>> do not already have an assignee[1], any help would be appreciated. My >>>> goal is to have all of the bug reports closed by 9/15 and give the >>>> package devs a few weeks before making the release announcement. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> [1]: https://launchpad.net/kicad/+milestone/5.0.1 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp