There is one library name I'm concerned about. See https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-symbols/issues/451#issuecomment-378701973. This would be a breaking change, but if it's important enough to change it's likely to only affect a small subset of all KiCad users.
It is "correct" to have a library with symbols for simulation named "pspice"? Should the library just be named "spice" or something more generic? On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:07 AM Rene Pöschl <poesc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to be sure i will ask the other librarians how strict they where > with our policy. (Sadly on the symbol side git is not of much help so i > really need to rely on their word. I will also make some manual checks.) > > For the future we might think about getting check scripts developed that > check for changes that would go too far. (To reduce the chance of human > errors. Some maintainers might be tempted to include one small change > that is slightly across the line. If this happens with enough frequency > then the sum of all changes could be too much.) > > On 28/08/18 19:16, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > On 8/28/2018 12:48 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: > >> Right now we have no changes made that would break projects. (That is > >> what i meant with "backwards compatibility" I know it is not quite the > >> right term) > >> > >> Also i thought the cache lib plus rescue dialog should take care of > >> minor changes to symbols if the user does not want to update a symbol > >> should it be changed. > > Yes, but I do not like depending on the cache. It's too fragile. Once > > the new schematic file format is in place, this will no be an issue. > > Until then, I prefer to error on the side of caution given the cache > > issues we've had in the past. > > > >> It should not even be necessary as we do not allow changes to symbol pin > >> numbers or positions. (Unless there was a mistake in the symbol.) > >> > >> As we did not include any of the wrongly scaled or wrongly aligned 3d > >> models in the version 5 library there is also no danger of damaging the > >> 3d rendering side. (There is a reason why the version 5 3d model library > >> is a lot smaller compared to the version 4 3d model lib) > >> > >> We do neither allow changing any library names nor do we change symbol, > >> footprint or 3d model names unless the original name was wrong enough to > >> be in danger of being confused with a part different to the one that the > >> object really represents. > >> > >> If you do not intend to include the library then i will lift the ban on > >> major changes as it does not make any sense in that case to hold back. > >> (The only reason would be to allow including bugfixes into future kicad > >> bugfix releases. I would include updating to newer industry standards as > >> bugfix. The later is the main work being continued on the footprint > >> side. We simply where not done with it with the v5 release but it was > >> not bad enough to postpone the release.) > > I didn't realize you were keeping tight control of the library commits. > > I'm fine with these changes being added to 5.0.1. I would like to keep > > the libraries relatively stable during the entire 5 stable series. For > > version 6, you can make whatever changes you see fit. > > > >> > >> On 28/08/18 18:30, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>> I would be careful with any library improvements during stable bug fix > >>> releases, particularly for symbol and 3d model libraries which are > >>> linked rather than embedded. My preference would be to just use the > >>> same libraries tagged for the 5.0.0 release to keep changes to user > >>> designs to a minimum. Users can always download the latest libraries > if > >>> they prefer the bleeding edge. > >>> > >>> On 8/28/2018 12:18 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: > >>>> Is it planned to include a new version of the libraries as well? > >>>> Right now we ensure that the library is relatively stable so i think > the > >>>> improvements made since the v5 release can easily be included. > >>>> (We do not allow major changes that would break backward > compatibility. > >>>> My plan is to use this rule at least till after the 5.1 release. Maybe > >>>> even until the new file format is well enough implemented to play > around > >>>> with it in the official library.) > >>>> > >>>> On 27/08/18 21:38, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>>>> I would like to get the 5.0.1 release out by the end of September if > at > >>>>> all possible. There are still a few open bug reports which need to > be > >>>>> fixed before we can release this so if you can fix any of the ones > that > >>>>> do not already have an assignee[1], any help would be appreciated. > My > >>>>> goal is to have all of the bug reports closed by 9/15 and give the > >>>>> package devs a few weeks before making the release announcement. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Wayne > >>>>> > >>>>> [1]: https://launchpad.net/kicad/+milestone/5.0.1 > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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