Yes. > On 22 Jun 2019, at 17:39, Nick Østergaard <oe.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ah, ok, it os the chamfers. I didn't realise that. What are you proposing, > to remove the spoke if the zone does not touch? > > lør. 22. jun. 2019 18.36 skrev Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie > <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>: > There’s no piece of the zone in the middle; that’s just the chamfers on the > ends of the spokes. > > The zone doesn’t go between the two pads because their thermal relief value > doesn’t allow enough room. > > Cheers, > Jeff. > > >> On 22 Jun 2019, at 17:04, Nick Østergaard <oe.n...@gmail.com >> <mailto:oe.n...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Mmm, I am not sure I under stamd that screenshot. Why are the zone not >> touchimg the thermal track between the pads while it looks like there is a >> part of zone area on the middle of the thermal track? >> >> lør. 22. jun. 2019 17.58 skrev Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie >> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>: >> Our current algorithm will produce thermal connections between two pads >> (with no connections to the zone): >> >> >> >> I assume no one will lose any sleep over dropping those? >> >> Cheers, >> Jeff. >> >> >>> On 21 Jun 2019, at 19:49, Jean-Paul Louis <lou...@yahoo.com >>> <mailto:lou...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Wayne, >>> >>> Except in very hugh frequency design (higher UHF spectrum, microwaves and >>> millimeter waves) >>> were chamfers can create more problems than they solve. >>> >>> This chamfer should be user optional, the best being individual part layout >>> optional. >>> >>> Just my extra data point, >>> >>> Jean-Paul >>> N1JPL >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jeff, >>>> >>>> Users are going to expect chamfering if there is an option for it. I >>>> don't see how you are going to avoid adding chamfering to the spokes >>>> unless we decide to do away with chamfering as an option. I don't think >>>> that's good idea because right angles on board geometry is generally >>>> frowned upon. >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> On 6/20/19 4:24 PM, Jeff Young wrote: >>>>> Turns out there’s a slightly unintended side effect. >>>>> >>>>> Before: >>>>> >>>>> Note the two truncated thermal spokes to the surface-mount pads at the >>>>> lower right. >>>>> >>>>> After: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The bug is fixed, but not that the junctions between the spokes and the >>>>> zone body are no longer chamfered. >>>>> >>>>> I’d say the “after” is better in that respect too, but again it’s >>>>> definitely different. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jeff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2019, at 19:50, Reece Pollack <re...@his.com >>>>>> <mailto:re...@his.com> >>>>>> <mailto:re...@his.com <mailto:re...@his.com>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Memory is the second thing to go as one ages. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't remember what the first one is. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Jeff Young" <j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie> >>>>>> <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>> >>>>>> *To: *"jp charras" <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr> >>>>>> <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr>>> >>>>>> *Cc: *"KiCad Developers" <kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>>> >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:46:58 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Kicad-developers] 6.0 Zone filling differences >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow. That’s sobering. I wrote the board outline clearance changes…. >>>>>> >>>>>> Age sucks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2019, at 19:04, jp charras <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr >>>>>> <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr> >>>>>> <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr <mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 20/06/2019 à 19:24, Jeff Young a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe we now have a warning, but I can’t remember what >>>>>> change it was for. I thought it was for the outline changes, >>>>>> but from what I can find on the mailing list archive it looks >>>>>> like we were satisfied that one wouldn’t change anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> So remind me what the warning is for? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> AFAIK, it is for board outline clearance change (taking in accounf or >>>>>> not the edge cut graphic items thickness, if I correctly remember). >>>>>> Zone outline changes (only activated if the kicad_advanced >>>>>> "ForceThickZones=0" option enables it), do not need any warning. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason behind this request is that I have a new fill >>>>>> algorithm which fixes a long-standing bug regarding one pad’s >>>>>> thermal ring knocking out another pad’s thermal spoke. It >>>>>> also allows thermal spokes on custom pad shapes (and would >>>>>> allow us to support custom number of spokes if we wished). >>>>>> >>>>>> While this should only change zone fills which would have been >>>>>> considered errors in the past, it nevertheless changes them. >>>>>> What’s the prescription for that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jeff. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >
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