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Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:06:33 EST
Objet: Re: [SovietDemocracy] PCN-NCP ANSWER TO THE
ATTACKS OF ITS ADVERSARIES !
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Comrades,
I speak for myself here. In my opinion, the
PCN-NCP has
successfully
answered the attacks of its "adversaries".
I will go along with the notion that the PCN-NCP
genuinely
believes that
it is a Marxist-Leninist outfit.
I think that its "national-bolshevism" outlook is
flawed and is
more or
less an extension and continuation of Stalinism. To
call them a
continuation
of Stalinism i think to them would be a compliment, so
I do not think
they
would entirely protest this characterization.
Inherent in their statement was the expression of
the view that the
bourgeois-nationalists can still serve a progressive
role. For this
reason
they supported Peron. For this reason they reprint
speeches from
Saddam
Hussein without any accompanying critique.
I do not know how they would answer to the murder
of thousands of
Communists at the hands of Hussein.
But this is not the point: While i believe their
nationally
limited
outlook and overtly menshevik outlook of "two-stage
revolution" (which
attributes revolutionary potential to bourgeois
nationalism in the
modern
era) is a bankrupt extension of Stalinist politics,
the PCN-NCP is a
proletarian formation -- their stated aims are the
complete
expropriation of
the bourgeoisie, communist revolution by the working
class, and the
construction of socialist society.
The PCN-NCP is not a fascist or "third positionist" or
"left-fascist"
outfit
from what I can tell so far. Their liquidation into
3rd world
nationalist
movements may disgiuse this fact: but the fact remains
that they are
"acting
on good impulses".
There is however a "National-Bolshevik Party" NBP
which IS one of these
"red-brown" formations and is fascist. I suppose we
are being urged by
the
PCN-NCP to not confuse them with the fascist NBP.
Now I have tons and tons of disagreements with the
PCN-NCP, but that is
not
what is at issue. The issue is whether or not the
PCN-NCP is a fascist
outfit.
While I believe their politics are dead end and do not
generally raise
the
class consciousness of worker's, ( e.g., calling for a
greater EU
within the
capitalist context) they are still a "proletarian
formation". Perhaps
I am
wrong or have been duped, certainly I think they
represent "orthodox
stalinism" which certainly lends itself to supporting
various 3rd world
nationalists who may or may not have other certain
affinities with
Mussolini
or Evola (like Peron). What do you comrades think?
JV Capone
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--- PCN-NCP Service de Presse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > It's exist
a lot of form of marxisms.
> A Stalinist is not a trotskist or a bourgeois
> social-democrat.
> It's true too with national-communism.
>
> PCN is nothing to do with american lunatic fringe of
> ITP or russian NBP (and we agree with you : it's not
> national-bolchevism but fascism and racism).
> In Russia we have links with KPRF (whose
> geopolitical
> and economical programm was inspired by PCN's
> theories).
>
> PCN is not a third way party. We are socialist and
> for
> a world revolution.
>
> ===================================
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > National Bolshevism is
> Third Position fascism.
> > Antifascists from all nations,
> > not just Yugoslavia, know this well. Heikki,
> please
> > remove the PCN from the
> > list immediately.
> >
> > In Russia the National Bolshevik Party is the
> party
> > founded by an ex Shadow
> > Minister of the nazi Zhirinovsky and admirer of
> > Joseph Goebbels. Their
> > official programme is for the "iron order" and to
> > put Black people in
> > concentration camps.
> >
>
>
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