The government looks at monopolistic practices to determine if a company of a 
monopoly. The EU believes Microsoft is monopoly. Quite frankly I was suprised 
how easily Microsoft got off. Part of the problem is that a portion of the 
republican part is very libertarian at heart.

----- Original Message -----
From: DJA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Main Discussion List for KPLUG" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Google office (Microsoft officals predict)
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:08:30 -0700

> 
> Todd Walton wrote:
> > On 5/5/05, DJA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> In practical economic terms Microsoft /is/ a monopoly in the operating
> >> system market. In that market Linux is still little more than a Glob Fly.
> >
> >
> > Well, "monopoly" usually means something more than just 
> > successful. It usually implies some kind of extra-market 
> > wrong-doing.
> >
> > -todd
> 
> But being BIG in the marketplace is part of the definition of a 
> monopoly. Pretty tough to be unsuccessful and be a monopoly, and 
> vice versa without being either the government or government 
> subsidized.
> 
> My point was that it is unfair to imply that because Linux exists 
> as a competitor that that is evidence that Microsoft is not really 
> a monopolist after all.
> 
> To me, neither Linux nor Google are relevant examples of successful 
> competitors against Microsoft's anti-competitive and monopolistic 
> business practices anyway.
> 
> Linux is not company, and not a product in the usual sense. It 
> exists within a completely different business model and can be 
> successful even if M$ were the only company in its own markets 
> (unless of course M& were able, through government manipulation, 
> outlaw Linux altogether). A better example if we insist on focusing 
> on Linux, would be Redhat.
> 
> 
> And Google is not really in Micro$oft's market (yet). It looks like 
> they want to be, but so far only seem to be as significant to 
> Google as Linux is to M$ in economic terms. M$ exerts no 
> monopolistic control over the search engine market. As successful 
> as it is, at this point in time, neither does Google.
> 
> --    Best Regards,
>        ~DJA.
> 
> 
> -- [email protected]
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