Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote:

I fully expect, however, that it's not quite as simple as "Apple becoming only an x86 clone maker." I most certainly think that Apple is going to make the OS available to run on generic hardware, but I

Apple will not make the OS available to run on anything other than Macintosh computers purchased from Apple. It'd be absolute market suicide if they did.

From C|Net:

'After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac," he said."'

also fully believe that Apple will continue to provide the high- quality engineering that it has always put into its products. If Apple hardware starts falling to the same "standards" of design and construction as the rest of the PC makers, Apple will most assuredly sign its own death certificate.

The majority of the market doesn't give a crap about standards of design and construction, they care about cost. That's why allowing OS X on other x86 hardware would be suicide - it would immediately shoot Apple's hardware revenue in the head, and that's where they make their money. Could selling the OS to a wider userbase make up for it? Possible but doubtful, and they'd have to ride the iPod for income until OS X managed further market penetration. And guess which Washington-based company would try their damndest to stop such penetration? :)

I'm also quite puzzled why Apple would go with Intel instead of AMD, given AMD's better overall price and system performance (Hypertransport blows the doors of Intel's shared bus architecture in nearly all throughput tests, especially in multi-cpu systems.)

Two answers to your puzzle:

1) AMD is already suffering their own production shortages, whereas Intel is dumping billions into new fabs and should have no problem guaranteeing availability to Apple.

2) Notebooks are outselling desktops these days. AMD has crap for mobile offerings. Intel has the Pentium M, which is a fantastic piece of engineering that offers the most winning combination of computing power vs. heat and battery life on the market.

Job's reference to "Universal Binaries", though, smacks of NeXTStep's "Fat Binaries" when they started supporting Intel systems.

Heh where do you think they got it from?

We shall see if this is either the beginning of the rise or the beginning of the fall of Apple. The least they could have done was go AMD, though...

The only thing that I'd have liked to see in a switch to AMD would be the continuation of the HyperTransport architecture in the PowerMacs. But if the performance is there with Intel, and it is (as much as the AMD-fanboy sites would like you to think otherwise), I don't see why it matters. In fact, Intel generally holds the benchmark crown over AMD when it comes to media-based applications like encoding, and that's one market where the Macintosh lives comfortably.

Remember that Apple's choice of Intel really just determines the instruction set. Apple and Intel are going to sit down and put together a reliable and well-engineered logic board for the Mac. They don't have to accomodate all the things that x86 PC makers do for the sake of backwards-compatibility (why is it that my 3.0GHz Pentium 4 can still run DOS?) They have a clean slate. They're going to make a kickass machine. It will just happen to have x86 instructions at the center. The users won't know or care.

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