On 4/11/07, Tracy R Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bob La Quey wrote:
> I beg to disagree. But maybe we just follow different things.

Ah, but I'm still way ahead of you Bob! :)

Great! I like knowing that some young guy is out there
breaking the ice. It is the "old before they are young"
guys like Andrew and Stewart that bother me.

It is dead dog simple to discount very thing new. It is
just as simple to hype everything new.

More difficult is to take hard and skeptical, not
cynical look. Cynicism is easy. Discount everything.
Scepticism is hard. Look carefully at it all.

> Mashups in general ... i.e. web services replace a lot
> of general purpose programing and introduce a lot of
> new problems.
> http://www.programmableweb.com/

I'm familiar with mashups. Just haven't had a use for it yet.

OK.

> AJAX, Just use Google to learn more

We are implementing AJAX for some basic apps where it is useful here in
my shop.

What are you using it for?

> Amazon Web Services,

Ultraviolet.org has been hosted on EC2 for a couple months now. And is
backed up to S3. I'm looking for an excuse to use SQS.

Great. So why did you go to AWS?

Is there any advantage for you?

Or are you just learning about it.

BTW, I just saw where there is a plugin for Firefox
that enables management of AWS. See
http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?entryID=609

I have not tried it yet since I am in a business mode
but I hope to soon when I return to techie mode.

> Google's BigTable
> http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html

Don't have a use for this yet.

OK. Google is now offering Open Source hosting
that uses BigTable as a backend for Subversion.
More at http://code.google.com/hosting/
and http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?cat=4

> Instead of Asterisk look at Freeswitch
> http://www.freeswitch.org/

Looked at it. They are basically asterisk malcontents who have forked
asterisk and are taking the design in a different direction. I wish them
luck. But I think asterisk as a whole needs a total redesign and they
aren't hitting the big issues. I still like and use it but I really wish
I knew more about using SER at this point.
> BTW, FreeSwitch runs on EC2 ... nuff said.

So does asterisk. :)

FreeSwitch is _not_ an Asterisk fork. It is a new design from the
ground up. Also it is not tied to drivers or hardware but works
purely on the virtual switching issues and their management.

The "malcontents" did write a lot of code for Asterisk
before they started FreeSwitch.

Any part od Asterisk that needs to touch PSTN oriented
hardware will _not_ run on EC2. So the only part of Asterisk
that will runon EC2 is the virtual stuff. This puts them
Asterisk on EC2 and Freeswitch on EC2 is direct competition.

As soon as I get back into the technical mode my first
effort will likely be to run some quantitative tests of the
latency issues ... The links that Andy pointed to before
were all related to a single instance of outage not latency
really. I have yet to find good latency data so I may just
have to create my own. Probably a good idea to do it
anyway.

It wold be good to hear your first impressions from
host ultraviolet.org.

BobLQ


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