The CA drivers license is reasonable, but I am not so sure about the 
non-smoking requirement. The requirement should be that the person performs to 
the same level as a non-smoker. But I don't feel that a smoker should be given 
additional breaks simply because he is a smoker.

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From: Michael J McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Main Discussion List for KPLUG <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: Entry Level Linux/BSD Admin Position

Thank you for your opinion.

The *ideal* candidate will not be a smoker. At no point are smokers
"banned" in the job posting. The *ideal* candidate will not have been
convicted of a crime.

As far as I now CA is an "at will" state. Common exceptions in the
states which are "at will" are Public Policy (is there a law explicitly
forbidding termination for this reason?), Implied Contract (doesn't
apply here), and good faith dealing (also no applicable here). If there
is no law explicitly prohibiting it, then employment can be terminated
by either the employee or the employer for any reason or no reason.

I will discuss this with a lawyer and make any needed changes to this
policy.

On a personal note: As much as I believe in the liberty of someone to
smoke, I also believe in my liberty to not be around them and to profit
from my business to the degree I want. It's best if we (the smoker and
I) agree that enjoyment of our liberties in this case are not compatible
to us working together.



On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 18:06 -0700, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> Michael J McCafferty wrote:
> 
> >     The ideal candidate have excellent professional and personal
> > references, never have been convicted of a misdemeanor or felony, is a
> > non-smoker.
> 
> I suggest you go take a quick course on California labor law.  You're 
> going to get in a heap of trouble if you keep this up.
> 
> I'm pretty sure you may not discriminate based upon smoking preference. 
>   Now, you can make it sufficiently painful that smokers don't want to 
> work for you.  Obviously, you can choose not to hire someone if you can 
> tell that they smoke as long as you don't give a reason.
> 
> In addition, you cannot a priori ban people who have even been convicted 
> of felonies let alone misdemeanors.  There is a 4 point checklist you 
> have to go through in order to exclude someone from employment based 
> upon convictions.  In addition, California has some notoriously 
> byzantine laws about this.
> 
> Finally, *never* document auxiliary characteristics that you want or 
> don't want.  It will be the first thing pulled out in an employee lawsuit.
> 
> -a
> 
> 
> 
> 
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