begin  quoting Todd Walton as of Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 09:21:15AM -0500:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:33 AM, James G. Sack wrote that Bruce Schneier 
> wrote:
> >  ..solution is not to sell security directly, but to include it as part
> > of a more general product or service. Your car comes with safety and
> > security features built in; they're not sold separately. Same with your
> > house. And it should be the same with computers and networks. Vendors
> > need to build security into the products and services that customers
> > actually want. CIOs should include security as an integral part of
> > everything they budget for. Security shouldn't be a separate policy for
> > employees to follow but part of overall IT policy.
> 
> But that only works so far as security can be canned up and put into a
> product.  There's an element of security that requires someone to stop
> and think about it.

Oh, that's what process is for. We'll hire a bunch of junior folks, and
we'll hand them five three-inch binders, and they'll come up with a
solution, all according to the certified process.

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