begin  quoting Darren New as of Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 05:02:09PM -0800:
> David Brown wrote:
> >Without it, I've not proven what I intended to prove.  Otherwise, we don't
> >know if there isn't some yet-undiscovered algorithm out there that solves
> >the problem more efficiently.  If we can prove that all algorithms must use
> >either O(2^2^n) space or time, the conclusion follows.
> 
> Yes, but that's a really hard problem, which is the point I'm making. :-)
> 
> Actually, proving this would probably lead to all kinds of good stuff 
> coming out of it for compiler theory and such.

There's been a lot of work done for tractable/intractable problems.

> "The Traveling Salesman Problem: A problem that has been vexing computer 
> scientists for many decades, but which traveling salesmen solve on a 
> daily basis."

Heh.

Actually, IIRC, someone showed that if you can make assumptions about
the problem (e.g., a planar graph), the TSP falls out of NP and into P.

Plus, real Traveling Salesman don't need the optimal route. "Good
Enough" is, well, Good Enough.  In practice, a little creative
inefficiency is extremly desirable... it's GOOD to be stuck in
Anaheim for a couple of days, if you want to hit Disneyland.

Relax the requirement to find an "optimal" solution, and it gets much
easier.

-- 
Good enough is good enuf
And all that kind of stuff.
Stewart Stremler

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