On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Marieke Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Carl Lowenstein wrote:
>>
>> In fact, by experiment, the only group that I belong to that I can
>> successfully "newgrp" to is "staff" which has no entry in
>> /etc/gshadow.   So I don't understand.  And this is wandering far from
>> newbie territory.
>>
>
> In my opinion it doesn't wander too far. Newbies need to learn about groups
> and we can sort how far along the discussion we follow. If you curtail the
> discussion too much, we won't learn much. Besides now I know that
> /etc/gshadow exists and might be more inclined to look it up in the future.

This morning's experimental results.

1) There is no way to delete a group with the GUI.  So $sudo
/usr/sbin/vigr is the only way.

2) There is some interaction between the GUI User and Group Manager
and group properties that I don't understand.  There is something
going on besides what can been seen in /etc/group and /etc/gshadow.

If I create another group by editing /etc/group, and make myself a
member of it, newgrp lets me in.

If I make myself a member of an existing (came with the system) group
by editing /etc/group, then newgrp won't let me in.  But if I unjoin
the group using the GUI and then join it again, newgrp works as
expected.


    carl
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