On Feb 16, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Joshua Penix wrote:
On Feb 16, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
Ubuntu is not in the running because it does not have a
"developer" baseline that's useful. Try as I might to like
Ubuntu, getting all the dev tools installed is a PITA.
But Ubuntu can pull Debian repositories... so doesn't that just
make its developer tools Debian++? Or is Debian a bad baseline?
I'd weigh in on Andrew's side of this... I've accepted Ubuntu for
myself for desktop-y stuff, but when it comes to actually having to
get down with the code or server-type stuff, it gets very hard to
find things (because all the packages are JUST slightly different
from Debian.)
I'd rather use Debian as a server OS over RHEL/CentOS/RH Clone of the
Week. Personally, every time I have to 'up2date -fu', I think,
"Yeah, RH, F U too." Yum is not quite the atrocity that up2date is,
but it's still far more painful (and less capable) than apt.
I very much like the idea of Debian Stable (whichever release it is)
as a baseline for a server. Servers shouldn't change much, and
definitely not unexpectedly. We can run funky stuff in other distros
in Xen domains.
Either way, there are currently two important OSes:
1) The dom0 OS
2) The OS to run what Sparky is currently running
For #1, I'd say it makes sense to pick the distro that makes a Xen
install easiest out of the box. My first choice would probably be
CentOS 5, but since that's not out yet... Ubuntu 6.10 may very well
be a good choice due to the available Xen packages in its
repository. Developer tools wouldn't be much of an issue on the
host OS would they?
For this, I'd have to defer to Tracy's experience with Xen, as he
seems by far the most qualified in the group to make suggestions WRT
Xen.
For #2, I think it would make best sense to continue running Debian
Stable, just as we do now.
Agreed.
Well from the standpoint of easy yet complete Xen integration, as
well as developer tools, Gentoo might actually be worth considering.
I will physically hurt anyone that installs Gentoo in a server
environment. Can we say, "moving target?"
Gregory
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