Joshua Penix wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:17 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>
>> Does anyone feel comfortable comparing (or moderating) KDE vs Gnome?
>
> I don't know that a "vs" setup would be worthwhile, but this tickles
> an idea I've had in the back of my head for a year or two...

Well compare and contrast would be more useful. But I like the idea below.

> How about a series of presentations that focus not on desktop
> environment features or comparisons but instead on ways of getting
> more out of your chosen desktop, as demonstrated by expert users?  I'd
> like to see power users of some of the common desktop environments
> give a 30-45-minute-ish presentation on what their daily workflow
> looks like and what features of their desktop they use to their
> advantage.

I like this idea a lot. But I think instead of having Gnome and KDE on the
same night, maybe do something like KDE and Fluxbox, or Gnome & Windowmaker.
KDE and Gnome may be a lot different underneath, but the interfaces look very
similar to me. Comparing something like Windowmaker with its icons and root
window menus to something like Gnome with it's "Windows like" task bar would
be more interesting. If we could get two displays up at once, it would be
interesting to see how you accomplish similar tasks in the different GUIs.

> Windowmaker, for example, is a common power user desktop used by at
> least John and Neil.  I've tried Windowmaker myself, but found the
> strange concepts of the clip and dock a little foreign, and wasn't
> sure how to best take advantage of them.  Watching John simply *use*
> his desktop for 20 minutes would probably teach me more than I could
> get in four hours of documentation reading.

I wouldn't consider myself a power user. I just prefer the "Next style"
interface to Windows. But I've never been much of a Windows user so I don't
have a distaste for anything that looks like it. I did use fvwm95 when I first
started with Linux.

> Common DE's that should definitely be covered (need volunteers!):
>   - Gnome
>   - KDE
>   - XFCE
>   - Windowmaker
>
> More obscure DE approaches that might be interesting:
>   - Ratpoison or one of the other "window-less" window managers
>   - Open/Black/Fluxbox
>   - Emacs (LOL!)
>   - ???
>
> And to be really complete, considering the sheer quantity of OS X
> users in KPLUG, a Mac desktop demo would probably be of interest.  I
> could also see value in doing a Windows demo showing how to get the
> most Unix-y experience out of it, considering that Linux guys often
> get stuck on a Windows machine from time to time.
>
> I could see this actually being a 2-3 meeting series, since we'd want
> to leave ample room for Q&A.

So does that mean than you would actually grace us with your presence and
perhaps even participate, by presenting one of the interfaces?

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