Neil Schneider wrote:
> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>> Neil Schneider wrote:
>>> Joshua Penix wrote:
>>>> On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:17 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone feel comfortable comparing (or moderating) KDE vs Gnome?
>>>> I don't know that a "vs" setup would be worthwhile, but this tickles
>>>> an idea I've had in the back of my head for a year or two...
>>> Well compare and contrast would be more useful. But I like the idea below.
>>>
>>>> How about a series of presentations that focus not on desktop
>>>> environment features or comparisons but instead on ways of getting
>>>> more out of your chosen desktop, as demonstrated by expert users?  I'd
>>>> like to see power users of some of the common desktop environments
>>>> give a 30-45-minute-ish presentation on what their daily workflow
>>>> looks like and what features of their desktop they use to their
>>>> advantage.
>>> I like this idea a lot. But I think instead of having Gnome and KDE on the
>>> same night, maybe do something like KDE and Fluxbox, or Gnome & Windowmaker.
>>> KDE and Gnome may be a lot different underneath, but the interfaces look
>>> very
>>> similar to me. Comparing something like Windowmaker with its icons and root
>>> window menus to something like Gnome with it's "Windows like" task bar would
>>> be more interesting. If we could get two displays up at once, it would be
>>> interesting to see how you accomplish similar tasks in the different GUIs.
>>>
>>>> Windowmaker, for example, is a common power user desktop used by at
>>>> least John and Neil.  I've tried Windowmaker myself, but found the
>>>> strange concepts of the clip and dock a little foreign, and wasn't
>>>> sure how to best take advantage of them.  Watching John simply *use*
>>>> his desktop for 20 minutes would probably teach me more than I could
>>>> get in four hours of documentation reading.
>>> I wouldn't consider myself a power user. I just prefer the "Next style"
>>> interface to Windows. But I've never been much of a Windows user so I don't
>>> have a distaste for anything that looks like it. I did use fvwm95 when I
>>> first
>>> started with Linux.
>>>
>>>> Common DE's that should definitely be covered (need volunteers!):
>>>>   - Gnome
>>>>   - KDE
>>>>   - XFCE
>>>>   - Windowmaker
>>>>
>>>> More obscure DE approaches that might be interesting:
>>>>   - Ratpoison or one of the other "window-less" window managers
>>>>   - Open/Black/Fluxbox
>>>>   - Emacs (LOL!)
>>>>   - ???
>>>>
>>>> And to be really complete, considering the sheer quantity of OS X
>>>> users in KPLUG, a Mac desktop demo would probably be of interest.  I
>>>> could also see value in doing a Windows demo showing how to get the
>>>> most Unix-y experience out of it, considering that Linux guys often
>>>> get stuck on a Windows machine from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> I could see this actually being a 2-3 meeting series, since we'd want
>>>> to leave ample room for Q&A.
>>> So does that mean than you would actually grace us with your presence and
>>> perhaps even participate, by presenting one of the interfaces?
>>>
>> Hear! Hear!
>>
>> would it be feasible for someone to act as a driver / demo-er, and try
>> to illustrate features or practices suggested from the audience?
> 
> Are you volunteering? :-)

Heh, nice try. ;-) But I'm not so good at that kind of thing. :-(

Regards,
..jim

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