Just below the picture of the Parabeam fabric, I meant to say "Resin" not  
"Glass".

Kevin Golden




In a message dated 2/10/2014 10:47:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
Tinyauto at aol.com writes:

Interesting stuff.

According to a Chinese manufacturer, they  can make this stuff in carbon  
fiber.  The only other  manufacture I have found is in the  Netherlands.   
http://www.parabeam.nl/

One question I have with this product is  how do you keep the space between 

the two fabrics from saturating  completely full of resin?  If it did this, 

it would be very  heavy.  The Chinese site says it is possible to use pour  
foam  to fill those voids in the Parabeam glass, but that isn't the normal  

use.  Here is a photo of the glass from the  side:
http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/parabeam-bv/fiberglass-fabrics-3d-26847-18898
8.html
I  think what is intended is just enough glass to fill those vertical   
looping weaves but it sure does seam to me it would easily puddle inside  
and  
cause the product to be very heavy.  Any ideas on  this?  

Also, from what I have read it will not do sharp corners  well.  Long  
gradual curves are no problem, but I would guess  the issue is the inner 
fabric  
would buckle if trying to lay it into  a sharp curved area of a female  
mold.  
Guessing here that the  thin stuff would do a sharper radius than the  
thick 
stuff.   Looks like there should be a chart somewhere to use as a  
guideline  
for this problem and there may be....  

Though I am not  building a KR, this group always talk about the most  
interesting  things and that is why I continue to read the  daily postings. 
  Thank 
You!

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak  Shadow




In a message dated 2/10/2014 8:24:43 A.M. Central  Standard Time,  
brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com writes:

I  was  wondering why they seem to have never done it in carbon  fiber
also.   Might just not be able to weave it correctly and  get the  spring
back.

So far I found some large rolls on Ebay  that work out  to about $18/yard,
but it is the 1/2" thick stuff that  is probably too  thick for anything I
would want to do with it.   Sounds high, but when  compared with multiple
layers of glass and a  core material it might not be  that bad.

They make it from 3mm to  22mm thick.  I would think the  3mm would be
best for something  like a cowl or wheel pants and something in  the 1/4"
range would be  good for something like wing skins.

I sent a  request on the web  site for some samples and more info.  I will
let  you know what I  find out.

Sam said that he does not know of anyone else  using  it.  I would think
that it would have limited use for   homebuilders except when used in a
mold.

-------- Original  Message  --------
Subject: Re: KR> Parabeam 3D fabric
From:  "Mark Langford"  <ml at n56ml.com>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, February 09, 2014  8:45 pm
To: "KRnet"  <krnet at list.krnet.org>

Brian Kraut  wrote:

> Supposedly  the resin goes to the outside layers and  leaves an air space
> in the  middle so it winds up like a foam or  Nomex core material that is
> light  and very strong.

Mark  Lougheed and I looked at Parabeam back in the  90's, and it was  
impressively strong but lightweight, but also very  expensive. Let  me
know 
when you find a price. I haven't heard anything  about it  lately (it was
new 
back then), so I figured it's been  displaced  by carbon fiber on Nomex,
but 
it probably has a niche with   homebuilders...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at   http://www.N56ML.com
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