I realize that I'm a new member her and as such I might have missed
quite a few things but one thing does stand out above all else in this
banter and that is people worried about punctuation and unwillingness to
"experiment" with new ideas. I have watched with interest the progress Mark
has made and the method in which he has gone about his project. First let me
qualify myself by stating that had it not been for Mark and many other KR
Netters, I would not be here as it was they who piqued my interest in the KR
series of aircraft. As a first time builder, long time experimenter and high
time helicopter/fixed wing pilot my interest was in a high performance, easy
to build, cheap and versatile aircraft to play with and fine tune to my
particular flying tastes. I'm sure that is why there are so many of these
aircraft flying or under construction.
Next, many of us cannot afford to plop down 100 or 200 thousand
dollars on a brand spanking new or even used aircraft for that matter. Some
people need to be reminded from time to time that these aircraft are not
classed as experimental just because the powers to be had no where else to
stick them. They also need reminding that the first planes that flew were
powered by automotive engines. And yes, they even need reminding that the
brilliant minds (engineers?) of their day told Wilbur and Orville that they
were nuts.
If spelling, grammar, an engineering degree are prerequisites of
flying, I do believe that we'd all still be riding trains across the country
and ships across oceans. Anyone who has ever read any of Bob Hoover's
posting has to laugh at the absurdity of the connection of grammar and
flying ability or engineering abilities. Some of the finest contributors to
our sport were not engineers, they were what people called "dreamers". If it
were not for these dreamers, where would we be?
In conclusion I would respectfully submit that anyone that feels the
same as Scott should use the delete key or better yet only reply when they
have something of value to contribute. Thank you.
CW2 Douglas J. Rupert
U.S. Army Retired
RR # 2 Simcoe Ontario
drup...@sympatico.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of cgardn628
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 1:19 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR>spelling, punctuation, and Mac-- & I'm Outta Here.....
Mark, good rebuttal but get back to work on the KR !.
I want to see you flying in to the Gathering this year ! in your own KR , I
mean...
Cheers
Chris Gardiner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: KR>spelling, punctuation, and Mac-- & I'm Outta Here.....
> Scott Cable wrote:
>
> > Oscar, Joe, and KRNetters,
> > Your comments are certainly not appreciated and are certainly
offensive...
>
> Scott, I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Two weeks ago you got all
bent
> out of shape over a good-natured poke that Pat Panzera took at engineers,
> and quit CorAircraft in a huff, despite the fact that you're just about
the
> ONLY guy on the list that took the comments as offensive. Then you
> ratcheted up your noise level on KRnet by poo-pooing Corvairs, and
> automotive conversions in general, in aircraft, which is what 98% of
> KRnetters are flying. I knew it would just be a matter of before you'd be
> gone from here too (although I see you're still a member, despite "I'm
Outta
> Here..." subject line).
>
> And I had to laugh when you sent me a message the other day about the
> viability of using a 6 cylinder Porsche engine with bored out
monster-sized
> aftermarket VW cylinders, right after your diatribe on the fallacy of
using
> automotive conversions in aircraft. You've just got to wonder.
>
> I pretty much just quit posting because despite the fact that I could have
> argued all day long about automotive conversions, and several of the other
> things that you've had "strong" opinions over, I didn't want to waste my
> time doing it. There comes a point when you just ask yourself "why
> bother?", and I reached that point about two weeks ago.
>
> Often when somebody starts trotting out all their engineering credentials,
> it's a good sign that their arguments aren't going well, and they're now
> relying on diplomas or job titles to add credence to their position. You
> had quite a list. I think the way to convince other list members of your
> expertise is with well-thought-out advice that makes sense, and after a
> while they'll KNOW who the experts are.
>
> As for the punctuation and capitalization thing, I wish I'd never
mentioned
> it. I never dreamed that it would get blown so far out of proportion.
And
> you were the guy that took it to extremes. When I saw that post where you
> corrected Mac's spelling, I knew that you'd be gone shortly, so I didn't
> even comment. As I mentioned earlier, I can understand the spelling
> problems. Some people's email doesn't even include a spellchecker, or
their
> spellchecker may be in a whole other language. That's understandable.
All
> I was asking for was a capital letter at the beginning and a period at the
> end. That by itself goes a long way in making a string of words
> understandable. I sent it to the list in an effort to make all of the
> offenders aware that it was a concern, but I didn't beat anybody over the
> head with it!
>
> Oscar's point was basically that Mac is a flying member of the KR
community,
> and as such is too valuable to make fun of and run off. We just don't
have
> many of them that will post to the list. I can't think of a single soul
> that OZ has ticked off over the years, but we can now start that list with
> you at the top. My guess is that it will remain a short list.
>
> The worst thing is that you flamed Mac, but didn't bother to actually
ANSWER
> his question! I'm sure with your background, you knew that temperature
> changes incurred between summer and winter months can contribute to that
> (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tirepressure.gif ).
>
> Some people read messages to see if they can help answer them, and others
> looks for things to pick at or get upset about. There are diplomatic or
> good-natured ways of getting your point across. Face it Scott, you're a
bit
> of a hot-head, despite the fact that you're a talented guy with some good
> suggestions and advice, emotionally you really don't have what it takes to
> participate in an internet mailing list. I appreciate your help and
advice
> to other netters, but you'd be better off lurking.
>
> Below is a comment I got from a veteran KRnetter this morning, and I agree
> wholeheartedly.
>
> "I don't know how much you've been monitoring the net lately but
> Scott Cable is gone. I guess my only comment is he who steps
> in front of Mack trucks should not complain about the surgery to
> remove chrome bulldog from forehead".
>
> Well, there goes another perfectly good hour of KR building time down the
> drain...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
>
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