Folks, I just got back from Oshkosh, it's 12:30 in the morning. I was extremely disappointed to miss the only KR-2 that was there. I was really hoping to get some input before I finally start on my project.
I know, I will get a hundred responses telling me I should come to the gathering. I don't know about you guys, but my vacation days are rather limited, and I have a family that appreciates it if I spend them with them. I go to Oshkosh to get the maxiumum impression on all the planes that are out there, and to pick up on other building techniques as well. I also go because I usually go with friends from the area, and they are not very interested in going to a type restricted meeting. My friends however were asking me about the apparent absence of KR planes. The only one we saw was the KR-1 on display in the FAA building. Looking at the many complains that are on the net about not enough poeple picking up the KR plans I really wonder what you are asking for. I don't think that you can expect a larger crowd to appreciate this plane, if you show it at "KR-only" gatherings. I don't know about the history with KR's and the EAA, I joined in 1996, and frankly, if I had not picked up last the last edition of Kitplanes Magazine that featured all the kit and plans build aircraft, i wouldn't even know about the existence of the KR. The KR-2 is a heck of a deal, and I bet a lot more enthusiasts would pick up the plans for it. I looked at many kits out there, but there is hardly anything below $ 20K to start with, and some can build 2 KR-2's with that money. I just had to vent this out. Go ahead, flame me, I am off to my bed now anyway. Wolfgang -----Original Message----- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of robert glidden Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:45 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance Mark Just got home from osh today about 3:30.Was great finally meeting you and Mark L. and Rich.Was super finally getting to set in a KR especially while it was ruuuuuuuning.Sorry my key was "missing out." Just kidding the project looks great looking forward to seeing everyone at the gathering.................Bob Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com> To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > Ed, > By golly it is only 55 days. I bet Stephen didn't know that. :-) > > Mark Jones > Mueller Sales Corporation > Ph: 262-781-5310 > Fax:262-781-4130 > E-mail: mjo...@muellersales.com > Web: www.muellersales.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejans...@chipsnet.com [mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:47 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > I echo what Jim says about KR attendance at OSH. I think it's due to a > number of factors rather than just a single one, such as Herb's accident. > As far as the accident, I think I remember that the weather was pretty hot > that day and there was quite a long line of airplanes and a long wait for > guys to get in the air. I remember seeing Herb and a couple others standing > outside next to their planes on the taxi way. So, it's possible that he was > not feeling very well at the time. > > Also, it's been said that many KR builders are pretty hard working > individuals and it may be difficult for some to take off work to attend. > Like the Pietenpol clan and other type fly-ins, the KR group really enjoy > their own gathering - many, even more than Oshkosh. It's often a matter of > choice. > > Let's all hope for good weather. This Gathering at Mt. Vernon should be a > fun one, for sure. Again, how many days left, Mark? :o) > > Ed Janssen > mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Faughn" <jfau...@socket.net> > To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:50 AM > Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > This is pretty much what happened although it leaves out the > > conversations I had with the EAA months previous that set up a KR only > > flyby. We even had conversations about a possible missing man formation > > to honor Ken. When we arrived at Oshkosh were not on the schedule. I did > > a lot of talking and at the last minute in place of one of the mornings > > general flybys we were told we could fly which really did make it a last > > minute thing. Whether this did or didn't have anything to do with Herb, > > we will never know. However, I still carry this with me because I'm also > > the one who set everything up and witnessed the crash. I can say that it > > did put a bad taste in everyone's mouth and none of us went back until > > 97 when I called a number of the pilots and said let's put it behind us > > and go again. It was tough to fly in that year. Of course everyone knows > > we did the same thing in 2002 and several of us went last year too. > > Quite frankly, I have lots of fun at Oshkosh but it is just a matter of > > time off and choosing priorities. I make it an absolute priority for the > > KR Gathering. > > > > Today, I think it is more an issue that there isn't a promotion for the > > KR at Oshkosh, other than what Mark and I have done. I believe that > > people want to be part of something and if you go to Oshkosh, what are > > you part of with the KR? Who do you talk to and ask questions of? If you > > go to the Gathering, you are definitely part of a great event and you > > can talk to "like minded people." These are people who love aviation, > > want a responsive airplane and love the idea of being able to own an > > affordable aircraft. > > > > Is there truth that we were shunned? I don't know, there is truth that > > they promised me certain things then didn't schedule it and had to rush > > around to deliver something that wasn't what we were promised. Do we > > carry a grudge? I've put it behind me and I think other issues are more > > prominent today for KR people as outlined above. Will I go back? If I'm > > still flying in 2007, you bet I'll be there and try to organize the 35th > > anniversary. > > > > See you at the Gathering. > > > > Jim Faughn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket....@mylist.net > > [mailto:krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket....@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan > > Heath > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:55 AM > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh Attendance > > > > RE: I've been around KR's for a lot of years and hear this every > > Oshkosh year. What I have never heard are the particulars. Was the KR > > actually slighted or was it just perceived? Dan, do you know the > > issues? > > > > I was there that year. Bob Muse and I tried to get out of Atlanta, but > > the weather formed a solid wall from around Chatanooga, so I flew back > > home and got in the car and drove to be at the dinner for the 20th > > anniversary. > > There was a fly by planned and the KRs were not told untill the last > > minute that they were to go. They were being squeezed in, between all > > the big money planes. > > > > We got there in time to hear the announcement that Herb Bull, the person > > who did the painting for Jeanette, had crashed of a heart attack during > > the fly by. He had to haul his plane in a hurry to get it to where they > > had to take off. Maybe he knew he should not fly or not. Maybe all the > > extra induced stress because the EAA forgot where there roots are, > > brought it on, who knows. > > > > The bottom line, as I understood it at the time, is that the EAA was too > > busy showing off the big money planes, to allow the KR to participate in > > an organized fly by as was planned by the KR people. > > > > This in NOT an excuse, and, on my life's list of things to do, is still > > to fly my own plane to Oshkosh. I will fly this plane to Oshkosh and > > every other place that I can. > > > > Marty and Dan Diehl were there along with a lot of the other old timers. > > I don't know how many KRs were there, but I do know that they all were > > very dissappointed in the EAA and that has stuck with me for over 10 > > years and until EAA does something to show that they remember where they > > came from, it will never go away. > > > > If you want to see KRs come to the Gathering. As many as can get there, > > get there. That should tell you something. > > > > > > "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and > > the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - > > 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at > > http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. 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