Dear Mark and KR pilots;
    The question of whether to include a  VSI in your panel brings to memory 
an incident you may find helpful.
      Many moons ago I had a Piper 250 Comanche and was asked to pick up a 
cherokee 180 at night and deliver
it to my home airport.
       Now assuming the 180 VSI shows a 250 fpm in the
lower 45 degree marking and 500fpm straight down.

       And the comanche shows 500fpm lower 45 degree and 1000fpm straight 
down.

       Try and fly the pattern and land with poor lighting and assuming the 
two VSI are equal.
        I tried everything I could think of to arrest the losses and gains 
in altitude. Power, Flaps...etc.

       Draw the two if there is any confusion.

I know I probably broke many rules however I never made another mistake.

JR
SanFrancisco

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" <corvaircr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: KR> Re: Stall speeds.


> NetHeads,
>
> Several folks have asked if I've tried cabin air as my static source, and 
> of
> course, I did that for several weeks, but there was no real difference in
> what I have now...it was just wrong in a different way.
>
> Today most sane people would've looked at the overcast drissly sky and 
> said
> "no flying today", but as JFK would have said, "some say you can't fly, 
> but
> I say why not?"  Anyway, the ceiling was 3700' when I started out, so 
> that's
> plenty of room to manuever, although I wouldn't do a stall that low.  By 
> the
> time I quit, it was down to 2700', and the terrain is mostly 900' around
> here.
>
> I stuck some 1/16" thick electrical tape 3/16" behind the static ports, 
> and
> just about nailed it!  At runway speeds in the neighborhood of 65 mph, I 
> was
> only off  by 4 mph, as opposed to 16 mph yesterday.  At 2000' wide open, I
> was only off by 1 mph!  Almost close enough for KR work, but not quite.
> I'll move them a little closer to the port and I'll be there.
>
> The good news is that the altimeter is only off by maybe 20' now, whereas 
> it
> used to be off by 50'.  The bad news is the VSI is still bonkers.  After
> doing a little research on that tonight, I found an RV'er with exactly the
> same symptoms, and his UMA VSI was bad, because it had a case that leaked
> into (or out of) the cabin, causing errors similar to mine, and the same
> sort of never-ending descents that my VSI indicates. I assume the
> "calibrated orifice" is supposed to do that to some extent, but apparently
> mine's not as calibrated as it needs to be.   I also have an UMA, and it 
> was
> my UMA ASI that was off by 52% on my first flight (see
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/airspeed_calibration/ ).  Today I was
> straight and level doing speed tests and it told me I was descending at 
> 1500
> fpm!  I guess I'll pull mine out to verify it's at fault, and cap off the
> line to see what happens with the ASI and altimeter without the VSI in the
> circuit.  I'm sure it'll be another round of "port tuning" either way, but 
> I
> wouldn't be a bit surprised if removing the dams doesn't get it close to
> right on!
>
> I'm not sure I even need a VSI, since it's useless and I don't look at it
> anyway.  Maybe I'll put a nice tach in that hole, since Grand Rapids 
> hasn't
> bothered to respond to my last two emails regarding the tooth counter
> interface that they said would make my EIS tach function actually work
> correctly. I've been waiting on that since early November.  Of course I
> wouldn't have that problem if the EIS tach function worked properly to 
> start
> with.  It works OK as long as the temps are cold, but once it warms up, 
> the
> tach indication is all over the place.
>
> The rest of the day was a real hoot though, as I did about 8 landings at 4
> different airports, and had a whole lot of fun doing what amounts to "high
> speed low-level terrain avoidance flights" for the rest of the 2.4 hours. 
> I
> wouldn't have landed then, except the rain was starting to make me worry
> about prop damage.  I drove home with a huge smile on my face, and looking
> forward to my next fix.  It was the best buzz I've had in years!  The
> weather prognosticator painted a really dismal picture last week, showing 
> 10
> days of nothing but dark clouds and rain and snow coming out of them (I've
> never seen 10 straight days like that on the weather report before), but
> I've managed to fly for 5 of the last 7 days anyway.  138.5 hours and
> enjoying every schtinkin' minute of it.  Life is good...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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